"Scaling out" is inferior behavior

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by Buy1Sell2, Oct 18, 2006.

Do you scale out of positions?

  1. I always scale out

    113 vote(s)
    14.1%
  2. I scale out most of the time

    228 vote(s)
    28.5%
  3. Most of the time, I do not scale out

    189 vote(s)
    23.6%
  4. I never scale out

    270 vote(s)
    33.8%
  1. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    The homeruns far far outweigh the little 5 and 6 point gains that I give back.
     
    #581     Jan 3, 2007
  2. volente_00

    volente_00



    The math does not agree. Because of the noise in ES the majority of the time is spent moving sideways. Hence you are better off trading the channel than trying to anticipate when it will break out or down.
     
    #582     Jan 3, 2007
  3. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Volente, as you know, I mostly position trade. Here is a quote from me earlier in the latter half of 2006 with regard to ES and is a trade that I am still long in--Note: I am not playing for 20 and 30 points. In addition, by comparing 5 6 point losses with one 20 or 30 point gain is static analysis. --I push positions and increase size as you know.:

    "I got long a little on this pullback . I am long at 1300.25 with 5 units. My stop is 1256.50. I will look at lower levels to perhaps add positions. In any event, this is a longer term trade here. I will have to see the market give clear reversal signals on the daily chart or perhaps the hourly combined with signals from the daily before I short. "

    Current price 1438.00 albeit it's the March contract now.
     
    #583     Jan 3, 2007
  4. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    I agree that on shorter term charts like daily, there is quite a bit of sideways, but on weekly and especially monthly, there is significant trending ability.
     
    #584     Jan 3, 2007
  5. B1S2 - I enjoy reading your posts and have lurked on this thread for a bit. I agree with your statement here - it really depends on what type of timeframe you are looking at. I personally trade intraday only and look at minute charts, which are obviously much different than a weekly or monthly chart. I can see your point on letting the type of trades you take run, but for myself, I go for small, fixed price targets and then out. There's just too much congestion on the intraday plays.
     
    #585     Jan 23, 2007
  6. Bull1Sell2,
    Thanks for your comment; it's not clear for me how you add positions: do you scale with 5-3-1...5-8-11 or other methods?

    Thank you,
    Bernard
     
    #586     Jan 24, 2007
  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Scaling out is a play that is employed by a trader who is overextended or needs the profits to bring their account back close to breakeven etc. The big wins that will put the account out of jeopardy are attained when scaling out is not employed. However, the scared money cannot see this. :)
     
    #587     Feb 6, 2007
  8. JB3

    JB3

    There is no right way to trade.
     
    #588     Feb 6, 2007
  9. you are right (there is no ONE right way)

    buy1sell2 has become simply a troll.
     
    #589     Feb 6, 2007
  10. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    There are many strategies that one can trade. However, there is only one right way to trade. Cut losses short, let winners run to full maturity. This is the only correct way to trade regardless of the strategy employed.
     
    #590     Feb 7, 2007