"Scaling out" is inferior behavior

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by Buy1Sell2, Oct 18, 2006.

Do you scale out of positions?

  1. I always scale out

    113 vote(s)
    14.1%
  2. I scale out most of the time

    228 vote(s)
    28.5%
  3. Most of the time, I do not scale out

    189 vote(s)
    23.6%
  4. I never scale out

    270 vote(s)
    33.8%
  1. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Trailing stops within the noise serve well to take you out of profitable trades. This is why I use much much less leverage when I trade.
     
    #551     Oct 29, 2006
  2. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    When you take some positions off prior to the final target without obvious reversal signals, you are scaling out.
     
    #552     Oct 29, 2006
  3. Right. :)
     
    #553     Oct 29, 2006
  4. volente_00

    volente_00

    So in theory you are entering these trades without a specific target in mind and riding them until a obvious reversal happens ?
     
    #554     Oct 29, 2006
  5. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    I have a general target in mind where I begin looking at reversal potential more in earnest, but I ride until A) the trailing stop gets taken out B) I see obvious reversal. For example, I look at 1000 pips on weekly Euro FX charts as a general guideline, but will ride it farther if I can.
     
    #555     Oct 29, 2006
  6. You can guess that for alot of b1s2's trades, he gets shaken out by "obvious reversals" and gets left behind as the market continues fowards. I'm guessing his success doesn't depend upon correctly identifying reversals so much as getting lucky enough that a market has caught enough people off guard, facing the wrong way, that no "obvious reversals" will occur until a distant price point later. That's pretty much how technically-oriented trendfollowers make their money.
     
    #556     Oct 29, 2006
  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Remember, I defer to the recent reaction high/low first. I rarely get shaken out of any trade due to this and the under use of leverage.
     
    #557     Oct 29, 2006
  8. I hope you intraday traders realize who you're getting advice from -- it's like a pit trader taking notes from Warren Buffett.
     
    #558     Oct 29, 2006
  9. billp

    billp

    B1S2,

    When you say get out after an 'obvious reversal', is your reversal usually at the top ( eg: if you are long futures), rather than at the bottom/valley? That means you are usually out way before your trailing stop loss level. Thks

    Volente,
    Great questions. Many of the questions such as 'definition of obvious reversal' was what I wanted to ask. Thanks and keep up those questions.




     
    #559     Oct 30, 2006
  10. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Yes, that is right. I am out and have reversed well prior to the stop being taken out. It is a rare occasion using daily and weekly charts that I would be stopped out. Most of the time, I am out on my own accord. This includes the version of daytrading that I employ using low leverage and no "probes". When I was using the probe strategy, the losses were very small with a lot of stop outs and then I would ride the winning trade. Both methods are acceptable and both should be let run to maturity. Thanks for asking!:)
     
    #560     Oct 30, 2006