Scaling into a position - any suggestions on how to manage the downside?

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by DEM BONES, Feb 11, 2010.

  1. The way I've seen reverse scaling and the way I do it is pyramiding. A pyramid gets smaller as you go up, yes? Say the initial size is X. The next levels up would be some fraction of X, not a multiple of it. I also trail stops on each level independently, reducing risk as it progresses.
     
    #11     Feb 12, 2010
  2. stevegee58,

    I'd rather make one entry after the pull back and only averageup.The problem is knowing where to get in.The scaling method does not require me to be so precise on the entry - which I have tried previously.I would enter and get wiggled out.
     
    #12     Feb 12, 2010
  3. ronblack

    ronblack

    Which books say to do that?
     
    #13     Feb 12, 2010
  4. Is it considered averaging down if you focus on a zone to accumlate and do so at different prices?I've found scaling into a position has increased my odds of being right VS trying to choose one price to buy and then only buy above that price.
     
    #14     Feb 15, 2010
  5. Just about every trading book I've read. Only add to winners, never to losers, cut your losses, let your winners run.

    That's how the trading game is won, don't ya know, yaw!?
     
    #15     Feb 15, 2010
  6. The book Millionare Traders has more than one trader saying he scales into a position and will buy below the initial purchase price.
     
    #16     Feb 15, 2010
  7. I understand what you're saying by building up a "full size" position in increments as price moves against you in a small zone. The problem is that you'll occasionally be hit with a full size stop-out anyway. Also, you'll occasionally have a 1/10 position take off in the right direction. This sounds good, but when you're right you want to have more skin in the game in order to balance out those full size stop-outs.

    Mathematically this still doesn't work out.

    BTW, this is a really old debate that crops up here periodically. The other great debate concerns whether scaling out is good or not.
     
    #17     Feb 15, 2010
  8. What you mean to say is that mathematically, it doesn't work for you.

    Period.
     
    #18     Feb 15, 2010
  9. Boff

    Boff

    Not according to successful traders like Scott Redler(T3, uses 3 tier buying), Jon/Pete Najarian, etc.
     
    #19     Feb 15, 2010
  10. I contend it simply doesn't work at all long-term for anyone.
     
    #20     Feb 15, 2010