Save the Children says 2000 children already killed in Gaza

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ipatent, Oct 24, 2023.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    oooooh.. social media randos

    when are you going to be linking to breitbart? Parler? truthsocial? rumble?
     
    #441     Dec 15, 2023
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

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    #442     Dec 16, 2023
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Hamas terrorist leaders are so wealthy that they have vacation homes. Maybe they could have used some of those stolen aid funds to actually help the children and families in Gaza -- you know, the people they use as human shields.

    Israeli Troops Raid Hamas Top Leader Sinwar’s Vacation Home, Finding Weapons and Tunnels Inside
    'We found weapons, tunnels inside vacation homes of senior Hamas officials,' Col. Elad Tzuri said
    https://themessenger.com/news/israe...ation-home-finding-weapons-and-tunnels-inside

    Israeli forces say they found tunnels and weapons inside a vacation home that belongs to Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar, according to a report.

    The Times of Israel reported that soldiers with the Israel Defense Forces conducted a raid on Sinwar’s vacation home, in addition to the vacation homes of other Hamas leaders.

    We found weapons, tunnels inside vacation homes of senior Hamas officials,” Col. Elad Tzuri said, according to the Times of Israel. “We see a lot of tunnel shafts here, still encountering the enemy but gaining operational control of the area,” he adds.

    Sinwar is the Hamas leader Israeli forces have been citing as the mastermind behind the Oct. 7 surprise attack on Israel.

    As the conflict between Hamas and Israel continues to escalate, Israeli leaders have been calling for and promising Sinwar’s death.

    "Yahya Sinwar, the ruler of the Gaza Strip, decided on this horrible attack, and therefore he and the entire system under him are doomed,” the Israeli Defense Forces chief of staff, Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevi said just days after the Hamas-led attack. “We will attack them, we will dismantle them, dismantle their system."
     
    #443     Dec 17, 2023
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    weird how they had to "raid" this terrorist financier's home while they had to bomb hospitals and level schools.
     
    #444     Dec 17, 2023
  5. ipatent

    ipatent

     
    #445     Dec 17, 2023
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Telling it like it is...

    Accusing Israel of ‘Genocide’ Reflects, at Best, Ignorance of the Term’s Meaning and, at Worst, Complicity With Hamas Terrorists
    Israel’s military efforts to defend itself against a recurrence of the mass murders and kidnappings of October 7 do not even come close to constituting genocide or crimes against humanity.
    https://www.nysun.com/article/accus...and-at-worst-complicity-with-hamas-terrorists

    The latest in a long history of blood libels against the Jewish people is the recent lie that its nation-state is deliberately committing genocide against the civilians of Gaza.

    The meaning of genocide is the intentional killing of a racial or ethnic group. The term was coined by a Polish-Jewish lawyer in 1944 to describe the Holocaust, which involved the deliberate murder of every Jew the Nazis could get their hands on.

    Since that time there have been genocides in Cambodia, Rwanda, Darfur and other places.

    Israel’s military efforts to defend itself against a recurrence of the mass murders and kidnappings of October 7 do not even come close to constituting genocide or crimes against humanity.
    To the contrary, Israel has done more to protect the civilian population of Gaza than any country in the history of warfare.

    This is especially so since it is Hamas that has caused the killing of so many civilians by using them as human shields, by stealing their food, medicine, and fuel, and by refusing to provide shelters for ordinary citizens.

    On a broader perspective, the Muslim population of Gaza has expanded considerably since Israel’s occupation that began in 1967 and ended in 2005. The only loss of population has been among Christian Arabs, many of whom have been forced to flee as a result of Islamic persecution.

    Even after it ended its occupation, Israel has treated numerous sick Gazans and provided relatively high-paying jobs to thousands of Gazans. Hardly what a nation intending to commit genocide would do.

    The United States did not commit genocide in Iraq or Afghanistan, despite the many thousands of civilians who became collateral damage during its wars against ISIS and Al Qaeda. Nor did other Western countries that have fought urban wars, such as France in Algeria and Great Britain in the Middle East.

    Hamas knew that by crossing into Israel and murdering, raping and kidnapping its civilians, it was signing a death warrant for many Gazan civilians whom Hamas intended to use as human shields.

    The accusation of genocide against Israel is particularly malicious, since it was actual genocide against Jewish people by the Nazis that led to the coining of the term. In that respect, accusing Israel of genocide is a form of Holocaust denial.

    Young people who hear the genocide libel against Israel and see that there are no gas chambers in Gaza may conclude that there were no gas chambers in Nazi-occupied Poland. And by equating legitimate self-defense measures with the building of gas chambers, these false accusers are diminishing the power of the term genocide.

    There is no credible evidence that Israel has ever intentionally targeted innocent civilians in their legitimate efforts to kill Hamas commanders, destroy their tunnels, and disable their rockets. Why would they? They achieve no benefit from the death of innocent civilians. To the contrary they are hurt in the court of public opinion.


    It can be argued, of course, that Israel should try harder to reduce the ratio of civilians to terrorists killed. It has been estimated that approximately two civilians have been killed for every terrorist who has met his just fate.

    It is impossible to know the exact figures, because the definition of a civilian is controversial in Gaza where many people from the age of 15 onward actively facilitate Hamas terrorism. Also many of those killed were the victims of errant rockets fired by terrorist groups from Gaza but landing near Gaza civilians.

    Yet even if the ratio were ten civilians to one terrorist, as it has been for other countries fighting urban terrorism, that too would not constitute the crime of genocide.

    Israel’s efforts to minimize civilian casualties by sending ground troops instead of relying exclusively on aerial bombing — as they did at the beginning of the war — cost many lives among IDF soldiers.

    Although Israel never deliberately kills civilians, those who use the term genocide against Israel are deliberately misusing that word as a political weapon. They know that Israel increased its control over the borders of Gaza only after Hamas took over and began to fire rockets and dig terror tunnels to kill Israeli civilians.

    They know that Israel has no intention of intentionally wiping out the civilian population of Gaza. They know that the population has increased. They know that medical care and jobs have long been provided by Israel. And they know that Israel would never have entered Gaza if not for the brutal attacks of October 7.

    The university students and others who falsely accuse Israel of genocide are complicit in Hamas’ terrorism. They may not know the real facts, just as many of them have no idea about which river and which sea are referenced in the slogan “Free Palestine from the river to the sea.” They may not know the definition of genocide or the history of the Holocaust.

    The ignorance of many of these protesters and sloganeers is unbounded but no one who has any sense of history can credibly claim that Israel is committing genocide. The truth is that the false accusation of genocide is yet another blood libel against the Jewish people.
     
    #446     Dec 17, 2023
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    You're such a good parrot:


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    let's be honest, we only refer to genocide in the "past tense". Best to avoid one than to tip-toe around hurt feelings:

    genocide:
    The definition contained in Article II of the Convention describes genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part. It does not include political groups or so called “cultural genocide”.

    The actions that would be considered genocide under the UN definition are forcing people to live in Ghettos, denying people food and medicine, and sending people to concentration camps.

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    #447     Dec 17, 2023
  8. ipatent

    ipatent

     
    #448     Dec 19, 2023
  9. ipatent

    ipatent

     
    #449     Dec 19, 2023
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Gaza Hospital Director Admits He Was A Hamas Officer While Terror Org Used His Facility As Base
    https://dailycaller.com/2023/12/19/gaza-hospital-director-ahmed-kahlot-hamas-facility-base/

    Ahmed Kahlot, the director of Kamal Adwan hospital, appeared to confess during an interrogation by Israel’s Shin Bet his hospital served as a Hamas base, The Times of Israel reported Tuesday.

    Kahlot told the Shin Bet, Israel’s version of the FBI, he and some 16 hospital staffers were Hamas military operatives and he joined the terrorist organization in 2010, according to the outlet.



    Kahlot also apparently confessed other employees served in Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a different terrorist organization, The Times of Israel reported. Footage of his apparent confession with an English translation was tweeted out by Yaari Cohen, an employee of Israel’s Foreign Ministry.



    Kahlot described in the video how scores of senior civilian and military Hamas officials used his hospital.
    “They had rooms [in the hospital], which they hid in. They stayed there for ten days and then they changed places to a different place,” Kahlot told his Shin Bet interrogator. When asked why Hamas did this, Kahlot appeared to say the hospital was regarded as a “safe place” where they knew they would not “be targeted.”

    Kahlot told the Shin Bet his hospital was also used to house a kidnapped Israel Defense Forces (IDF) soldier, and Hamas had an array of private ambulances which were marked differently from other ambulances and not used for medical purposes.

    Kahlot was arrested alongside many of the hospital staff mid-December following the capture of the hospital in the northern Gaza Strip by the IDF, CNN reported. Prior to and during the current IDF military operation in Gaza, Israel has accused Hamas of using hospitals for military purposes. It is widely recognized that under international law, such misuse of hospitals and other typically protected facilities and persons results in these places and persons becoming legitimate military targets as well as the loss of any special protection, the Red Cross reported.
     
    #450     Dec 20, 2023