Saudi Uproar

Discussion in 'Politics' started by dealmaker, Oct 12, 2018.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I think he's saying a government killing a private citizen (on foreign soil no less) is far more egregious than criminals gunning down people over some beef (cartels against mormons this week).
     
    #191     Nov 6, 2019
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  2. loik

    loik

    Ideally arrest him, bring him back to Saudi Arabia and put him on trial for treason/espionage. Or killing him inside a consulate/office building, with the challenges that brings about, was the plan all along?
     
    #192     Nov 6, 2019
  3. loik

    loik

    He was not a regular/private citizen, he had ties to the Saudi royal family/Saudi intelligence services, used to work for the Saudi government etc. He might have committed treason/espionage, they tried to arrest him, he resisted, it got out of hand, he died. A Saudi Arabian consulate is Saudi soil. Ideally arrest him, bring him back to Saudi Arabia and put him on trial for treason/espionage. Or killing him inside a consulate/office building, with the challenges that brings about, was the plan all along?
     
    #193     Nov 6, 2019
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    This is the 1st I've heard of him being a "spy", sounds like BS smear conspiracy to be honest. What passes as a spy in Saudi may just be speaking your mind elsewhere however. I guess I'm not sure what your stance on the issue is; you seemed critical of what appears to be misunderstood downplaying of the killing by ElCubano.
     
    #194     Nov 6, 2019
  5. loik

    loik

    If you have information on inner governmental dealings(worked in government, have ties to the royal family etc), and you share that with the opposition/dissidents etc, is that not spying/treason?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Khashoggi#Saudi_Arabia
     
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    #195     Nov 6, 2019
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    That would depend on the nature of the secrets being shared. See, Trump would paint the whistle-blower a traitor, while the rest of us see him a patriot.

    Also, first I've heard of him "working in government" and having knowledge of the "inner workings".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Khashoggi#Career
     
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    #196     Nov 6, 2019
  7. loik

    loik

    Add a dot: 'www.npr':
    https://www npr.org/2018/10/19/658947600/jamal-khashoggis-complicated-history-with-the-saudi-royal-family
     
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    #197     Nov 7, 2019
  8. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    You mean kinda like what Trump has done? :D....
     
    #198     Nov 7, 2019
  9. loik

    loik

    No!
     
    #199     Nov 8, 2019
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/06/trump-saudi-king-salman-pensacola-shooting-077222

    Trump passes along Saudi king's 'sympathies' after Saudi national kills 3 at naval base

    “The King said that the Saudi people are greatly angered by the barbaric actions of the shooter," the president tweeted.

    President Donald Trump confirmed that the suspected shooter who killed three people and wounded 11 others at a Naval base in Pensacola on Friday morning was a Saudi national and announced that he’d spoken with the kingdom’s ruler about the attack.

    “King Salman of Saudi Arabia just called to express his sincere condolences and give his sympathies to the families and friends of the warriors who were killed and wounded in the attack,” Trump wrote on Twitter. “The King said that the Saudi people are greatly angered by the barbaric actions of the shooter, and that this person in no way shape or form represents the feelings of the Saudi people who love the American people.”
     
    #200     Dec 6, 2019