San Francisco Has Fallen

Discussion in 'Politics' started by VicBee, Apr 11, 2023.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Doctors just wanna heal!

     
    #81     May 25, 2023
  2. VicBee

    VicBee

    Last edited: Jun 13, 2023
    #82     Jun 13, 2023
  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Malls have had plenty of warnings that they're destined to become Bezos's distribution centers (JcPenny, Sears). Why they keep pulling stunts like holding teenagers hostage to bring their parents' wallets into the door is beyond me:

    https://apnews.com/article/chaperones-teens-malls-amusement-parks-crime-8d1cee2a4e4321f7c7b3736276ab46e4#:~:text=Requiring an adult chaperone at,adults after 3 p.m. daily.

    Adapt or die, just like mom and pop shops had to.
     
    #83     Jun 13, 2023
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  4. VicBee

    VicBee

    So are you saying petty criminality and lack of police action have nothing to do with this?
     
    #84     Jun 13, 2023
  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I'm saying it's a convenient excuse to shareholders.
     
    #85     Jun 13, 2023
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    To be fair, Westgate is also walking from properties in other states. This is more an overall death of the retail facing than it is a SF thing. Its been coming a long time.
     
    #86     Jun 13, 2023
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  7. VicBee

    VicBee

    Lol, I had to stop and think why shareholders had anything to do with this... you sure stretch this one long! And the Hilton, it's.... What?
     
    #87     Jun 13, 2023
  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Did you understand what I said, or are you seriously asking why having an explanation for shitty earnings to keep shareholders is necessary?
     
    #88     Jun 13, 2023
  9. VicBee

    VicBee

    I get your stretched reasoning for Westfield to close in San Francisco because unable to compete with Amazon (but find it far-fetched) but what about Hilton?!? Is Amazon also to blame for its abandonment by corporate?

    Or maybe SF commercial property property values have sunk so low that these giants of their industries prefer to dump their assets and take the hit..
     
    #89     Jun 13, 2023
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    So you didn't get it.

    I answered your question that companies w/a storefront who must answer to shareholders will find any excuse to keep shareholders when they've failed to bring customers through the door. Up to and including using a rise in petty crime and theft that magically enough is seldom quantified and contrasted against revenue for said locations.

    In fairness to Westfield (can't speak about Hilton), on skimming article, I didn't see them blaming petty crime or theft....just going by the tenor of the thread.
     
    #90     Jun 13, 2023