San Francisco Has Fallen

Discussion in 'Politics' started by VicBee, Apr 11, 2023.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Most of the "new" homeless shelters in San Francisco and New York however are apartment buildings that have been completely redone (rehabilitated) or hotels that have been converted. I will note that many of the New York City homeless sites have been recently been used for migrants -- effectively pushing the homeless out of them.
     
    #141     Dec 13, 2023
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  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    For all the money San Francisco has spent on the homeless -- the results are dismal.

    Despite Spending $1.1 Billion, San Francisco Sees Its Homelessness Problems Spiral Out Of Control
    San Francisco is slightly smaller than Jacksonville, Florida. Yet San Francisco’s homelessness budget—$1.1 billion in fiscal year 2021–22—is nearly 80 percent of Jacksonville’s entire city budget. But despite this enormous spending, homelessness and the attendant problems of drug abuse, crime, public health issues, and an overall deterioration in the quality of life, spiral further downwards each year.
    May 10, 2022
    https://www.hoover.org/research/des...sco-sees-its-homelessness-problems-spiral-out

    SF supervisor says city's $1.45B budget plan to end homelessness won't work
    February 2, 2023
    https://abc7news.com/sf-homeless-pl...ancisco-supervisor-rafael-mandelman/12760671/
     
    #142     Dec 13, 2023
  3. Mercor

    Mercor

    Homelessness has become a NGO industry...
    Solve it and watch the funding dry up
     
    #143     Dec 13, 2023
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  4. Ricter

    Ricter

    Universal Basic Income now.
     
    #144     Dec 13, 2023
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  5. nitrene

    nitrene

    That money just goes to the NGO scammers. Here in the bay area it is referred to as the Homeless Industrial Complex.
     
    #145     Dec 13, 2023
  6. Mercor

    Mercor

    I am in favor of this...but it has to be supervised
    Once a month before they pickup the check they need to show a counselor how they spent the money. They should commit to save part of the check
    A person with a credit rating of 582 is uneducated to manage these funds
    Use the universal payment to teach responsibility

    Between ages 25 and 29, young adults in majority-Black communities have a median credit score of 582,
     
    #146     Dec 13, 2023
  7. Ricter

    Ricter

    "They" have to show? You mean everyone, right? It's universal basic income. Everyone has to keep receipts for every purchase every month.
     
    #147     Dec 13, 2023
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  8. Mercor

    Mercor

    Who has to show receipts for purchases?
    If we are giving free money lets use this to help people to learn money management or else this will become perpetual.
    The goal is to help people off a universal payment
     
    #148     Dec 13, 2023
  9. VicBee

    VicBee

    Homelessness is a non accountable term used to avoid using the longer but more accurate "vagrants with substance addiction and/or mental illnesses".
    Both Democrats and Republicans can be blamed equally for this quagmire, first because each group can and does politicize a problem when it shouldn't be and, second, because, at it's core, the issue is enshrined in this national bible we call the Constitution, something about freedom, which both sides like to invoke every time our elected government does something they are displeased with.
    How difficult can it be for a city, county, state or federal government to forbid vagrants on city streets? Should be easy enough, right? Good luck. It's so easy to blame "The System".. individual responsibility, drug cartels, abysmal healthcare, greedy landlords, lack of morals, high this, low that... There's no resolve to end this because it's a master fuck project full of holes to be abused.

    Having lived in a few countries, I see that other nations have grabbed the bull by the horns and addressed their "homelessness", mainly by plugging the holes one at a time over many decades, keeping what works and discarding what doesn't. Mental health support, substance abuse care, temporary housing, strict vagrant laws...Holes are patched enough to preserve society's good conscience; contributing a significant amount of tax monies to care for those who can't care for themselves. It's a heavy burden that America conveniently sweeps under the "freedom" label... Freedom to be a vagrant, a motto that both right and left can agree with from opposite sides of the political spectrum.

    To be fair, we prefer to spend our tax money financing our military industrial complex and saving the world from itself, as we're told.
     
    #149     Dec 13, 2023
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Yes!!!
     
    #150     Dec 13, 2023