ProTrader, I agree with you and by no means was I trying to bash Mr.Chua's trading abilities since obviously I have no way of knowing. I guess my main reason for posting (even though it may not be of any value to anyone) was to try and understand why someone would go through the hassles of doing seminars ect when he can supposedly make 270k every six months. And you are right his motives might be genuine and he just enjoys spreading his talent, maybe if someday I can pull in that kind of coin I will want to do the same. For example TonyOz's post are helpful and obviously he enjoys both trading and helping train and motivate other traders. Anyway, no response necessary lets get back to the original reasons for this post. Good trading..