Saltynuts's trend following journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Saltynuts, Apr 6, 2018.

  1. qxr1011

    qxr1011

    imho all those exercises should have one main purpose: to create correct definition of trend, s/r (there is nothing else)and how to work with them

    u can start with your definition now, but it should/will change
     
    #21     Apr 6, 2018

  2. Oh I follow you SunTrader, the multiplier is 5. Was just reporting the points to keep it simpler. But I'm stopping this anyways - their paper trading platform SUCKs.
     
    #22     Apr 6, 2018

  3. I much appreciate the insight qxr1011.
     
    #23     Apr 6, 2018
  4. nickynoes

    nickynoes

    Sim is not useless, it's just a different thing than trading live. You use sim to master your strategy and go through the motions, you go live to master your emotions.

    It is quite a lot easier to learn to run when you know how to walk, why make it harder on yourself and not learn to do your strategy before learning to do it while getting shot at?

    No soldier is going to tell you that shooting at a range is useless, and that you should learn to shoot while at war. It's equally preposterous.
     
    #24     Apr 6, 2018
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  5. rb7

    rb7

    You're done with shorting penny stocks with your hundreds of thousands of dollars account?
    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...shorting-weird-issue-regarding-margin.319894/
     
    #25     Apr 6, 2018
  6. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    To paraphrase Mike Tyson somewhat

    "Everyone has a plan {from sim trading} 'till the market punches them in the mouth {trading account}."
     
    #26     Apr 6, 2018
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  7. nickynoes

    nickynoes

    It's still better than having no plan and getting punched in the mouth.
     
    #27     Apr 6, 2018
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  9. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    True. But you seem to be positing someone won't have a plan if they don't sim trade or just because they do sim trade they will have a plan. As well that they won't get punched in the mouth as long as they have a plan and have sim traded first.

    If someone wants to learn to swim they can watch all the instructional videos they can get their hands on but until they step or better yet jump into the pool they will never really know how to do it.
     
    #29     Apr 6, 2018
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  10. So, first day results trading in real account, but just 1 share of SPY:

    Sold 262.68
    Bought 262.89 loss -0.21
    Bought 263.19
    Sold 262.84 loss -0.35
    Sold 262.86
    Bought 262.32 gain 0.54
    Bought 262.83
    Sold 262.66 loss -0.17
    Sold 261.81
    Bought 261.83 loss -0.02
    Sold 261.59
    Bought 260.42 Gain 1.17
    Sold 258.37
    Bought 258.95 loss -0.58
    Bought 258.90
    Sold 258.30 loss -0.60
    Sold 258.30
    Bought 258.58 loss -0.28
    Bought 258.58
    Sold 259.23 gain 0.65
    Sold 259.06
    Bought 259.25 loss -0.19
    Bought 259.48
    Sold 259.08 loss -0.40
    Sold 258.89
    Bought 259.52 loss -0.63
    Bought 259.52
    Sold 260.15 gain 0.63


    Total loss (0.44)


    Meh, that's like a 40% plus annualized return loss! I think I need to look at the bigger time frame bars, was looking at like 30 sec and 1 min, spotting trends there. I see immediately what you are talking about qzr1011 - what looked like a trend on a short time frame chart was nothing on a longer time frame chart. Will do 5 min on Monday.
     
    #30     Apr 6, 2018