Salary: Big 3 autoworker vs PhD college professor

Discussion in 'Economics' started by a529612, Jul 15, 2007.

  1. Bootsie

    Bootsie

    I don't need to see the numbers to know that DELPHI makes absolute GARBAGE. Have you seen the interior to a GM product? It's amazing they've been in business this long....
    big huge buttons that look like they were made for the purpose of easy application - not for the driver or occupants. What a fuckin' joke.

    I bought a CTS-V cause my buddy was the sales guy. I was still very apprehensive about buying American. The car was a lot of fun but I couldn't get it up the driveway when it snowed. That's right - a 400hp rear wheel drive car that I couldn't get up the friggin' driveway... brutal.

    I will never ever EVER buy American again.
     
    #61     Jul 16, 2007
  2. piezoe

    piezoe

    Excellent, Bingo! Whenever salaries get to far out of whack they usually have a way of correcting so long as free competition can operate.
     
    #62     Jul 16, 2007
  3. I don't think that is the case for Info Tech (IT) workers....many salaries are at levels seen 10 years ago.
     
    #63     Jul 16, 2007
  4. Your inability to conquer your driveway was your car's rear wheel drive. You would have exactly the same problems with any rear wheel vehicle no matter what the make.
     
    #64     Jul 16, 2007
  5. piezoe

    piezoe

    Bluud. It would be irresponsible of me to let your nonsensical post go unanswered. I said nothing to even suggest that the technologies i mentioned came out of Universities, though, in fact, many of them did. But just where do you think that Ph.D.'s come from?

    Consider just the National Laboratories for a moment: Sandia-Albuquerque, Sandia-Livermore, Lawrence-Livermore, Los Alamos, Brookhaven, Argonne, etc. Do you think the leadership in these laboratories are a bunch of idiots? Who are the prime contractors for these Laboratories? How about, the University of California, the University of Chicago, etc. Are you aware of that? Why don't you take the time to go to a few of the Websites for these laboratories. If you do, you will find for example under Brookhaven:

    "In 1946, representatives from nine major eastern universities — Columbia, Cornell, Harvard, Johns Hopkins, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Princeton, University of Pennsylvania, University of Rochester, and Yale — formed a nonprofit corporation to establish a new science facility, and they chose a surplus army base “way out on Long Island” as the site.

    Are you aware that the scientific staff at the Los Alamos laboratory are University of California employees, not Government employees?

    Where did you get your crazy ideas. Are you aware that the Manhatten project was lead by US and European academics (Ph.D.'s by the way) not by the Army.

    The bulk of Basic Research in the United States is done in our Universities under the direction of Ph.D.'s. Almost all of what is not, is done in National Laboratories, Laboratories of American Industry, or in the basic research laboratories of government. NIH, NASA, Army, Navy, Airforce, etc., and virtually all of this research is done under the direction of Ph.D.'s. Much of the Army, Navy and Air Force and Private industry's basic research is contracted to and performed in University Laboratories. There is virtually no Basic research done in Universities, the National Laboratories, in the Army. Navy or Air Force Research facilities, or for that matter, anywhere else in this country. that is not directed by Ph.D.'s.

    Argonne is Univ. of Chicago. Lawrence is Univ. of Calif. Berkeley. I believe, but am not certain, that Sandia's and Oakridge's prime contractors are corporations.

    I just don't understand where these very, very wrong, nutball, ideas are coming from.
     
    #65     Jul 16, 2007
  6. jem

    jem

    Whne I drive around Palo Alto and LaJolla I am in awe of the technology spun off from Universities. Just look at the names on the buildings. Its incredible. All the jobs and the wealth created. I have friends who made millions working for qcom.

    I am very glad that the endowments of many institutions have benefited from our bubble markets. I think the intellectual capital created by the students and the PHDs are the best hope for the future of the U.S.

    Sure some PHDs are boneheads and can run tech companies into the ground. But others create tech, biotechn and telecommunications companies which changed California and the world.
     
    #66     Jul 16, 2007
  7. Running companies into the ground is just healthy capitalism - evolution in action - and part of the great learning experiment. Just like learning to trade, most people don't experience a straight line of personal growth.
     
    #67     Jul 16, 2007
  8. minx

    minx

    Had to call a guy out to saw a small gas pipe in half and cap it, took 40 mins including cleaning up, £103 (that $210)!
     
    #68     Jul 17, 2007
  9. 0008

    0008

    Physically weak person can't do plumbing and electrical work. They are tough works and for men only. College professors are for intelligent people and many women can do it.
     
    #69     Jul 17, 2007
  10. Daxtrader

    Daxtrader

    College is a scam. I graduated with a degree in finance. Got a job at Morgan Stanley. All I have to say is I wish college had a major called "Microsoft Excel".

    Unless you're in the medical field or going to law school or anything specialized, college is a total waste of time imho.

    I think it's safe to say that most students don't remember jack shit from college. I could've googled up everything I've learned in 4 years in about a week.

    I would go to grad school just to scope out some young chicks.
     
    #70     Jul 17, 2007