S/R Emini Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by 4re, May 15, 2006.

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  1. Thanks for sharing this idea, 5P. However, perhaps there's a bit better way to play this idea.

    In looking at the TICK charts for the last few days, it appears that entering on the breakout of the 1st hour high/low was putting you into the trade at less than the ideal time (i.e. long at a short term top, which may continue up after a retracement).

    Instead, it looks better to wait for the post-10:30 EDT new TICK high/low, and then enter when TICK inevitably retraces near the 0 line (say +100 for longs and -100 for shorts).

    Another observation: this TICK breakout method seems to work better when Tick is bouncing back and forth across the 0 line during the first hour without hitting extremes (over +1000, or -1000). If TICK is solidly on one side the whole first hour and hits an extreme (like +1200 on 9/20), a breakdown to a new low of only -100, is probably not indicative of a market reversal, but instead just a retracement prior to trend continuation.

    Many thanks for this idea! TICK is my favorite market "internal", and I always watch it to see if it's supporting the direction of my trades (and watch for divergences on it versus ES price to confirm reversal entries). For me, this is a new twist on its use for trade entries.

    Who says reading ET on a Saturday morning is a waste of time! :)

    Sandy
     
    #5921     Sep 23, 2006
  2. SG66 - The trader I know that uses this method looks for very specific volume plays at these levels (he usually only takes one or two trades a day with large size and he only goes for 1 pt).....when he gets the set-up he is looking for he then takes a shot for 1 pt.

    I know he is looking for a breakout move based upon volume readings to catch some momentum out of the initial balance range. I know he rarely has losers so he is on to something.
     
    #5922     Sep 23, 2006
  3. 4re

    4re

    Once again the idea of taking a larger position for fewer points comes up.

    It just seems to me that this tends to work very consistantly for the emini. It is also a very low stress technique which is very dificult to find in trading.
     
    #5923     Sep 23, 2006
  4. One point that springs to mind, is to be successful you don't need to make a lot of points net.

    You just need to trade big size and have a consistent equity curve.

    Let's take an extreme example. If you made just 10 points net per month on average and traded 200 contracts you would make $1.2m per year.

    Something to think about. It's about consistent profits on a monthly basis and building account size up gradually over time, IMHO.
     
    #5924     Sep 23, 2006

  5. thanks a lot, gary! i may try this sometime. hadn't thought of using bollinger bands to get the timing right...but in this strategy, you are probably buying near term options with close expiration dates, right? and do you buy in the money options? or out of the money options?
     
    #5925     Sep 23, 2006
  6. i have no problem shorting or holding overnight with one large caveat: if i meant for the stock to go down immediately and it doesn't and i'm holding a large position, i cut my losses and run. holding longer and hoping for a fall tends to be futile, leading to even bigger losses.
     
    #5926     Sep 23, 2006
  7. billp

    billp

    Princessa,

    Your 'immediate'--is it within the day or 1-2 days later. Thks.

     
    #5927     Sep 23, 2006
  8. good point....
     
    #5928     Sep 23, 2006
  9. no later than the next day. that said, if it is consistently going down, i may hold an extra day, but if it's going against me, i'm out.
     
    #5929     Sep 23, 2006
  10. 4re

    4re

    Yes, I wish I was that example. But you are correct
     
    #5930     Sep 23, 2006
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