S/R Emini Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by 4re, May 15, 2006.

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  1. volente_00

    volente_00


    There is a difference. By scaling in what you are doing is reinforcing your belief that you are not right about the trade. Did you not learn anything from watching Franz blow up ?
     
    #5311     Sep 18, 2006
  2. volente_00

    volente_00


    1331.75 is rule of 2 level also.
     
    #5312     Sep 18, 2006
  3. Patricio

    Patricio

    As a serious trader looking to master your game you cannot afford to allow emotional or perceived psychological needs to influence your willingness to protect yourself. The reason you must never add to a loser (under any circumstances) is because the probability of being on the correct side of the order flow has already become evident due to the open-trade loss you already are holding. You are on the loosing side to begin with, you haven't seen it right and that FACT alone, in and of itself says "liquidate"---nothing else.
     
    #5313     Sep 18, 2006
  4. disagree 100%. i know mere mortals like me or 99% of other people will ever get the exact low or exact high. this way 99% of the time i get a better avg price. it works trust me
     
    #5314     Sep 18, 2006
  5. volente_00

    volente_00




    If it works then why did you watch Franz blow up ?
     
    #5315     Sep 18, 2006
  6. romik

    romik

    P, it all boils down to the FACT that we all trade in different ways, but you can not say do this or do that, unless you understand the specifics.

    Here is a typical example. You are long max position size and your stop is 2 points from entry, you are currently down 1 point, so does that mean that you will liquidate because you are perhaps temporarily in negative equity?
     
    #5316     Sep 18, 2006
  7. see that's the difference. i'm entering with a avg trade mentaility to beging with and a little move agaisnt my initial psotion is a gift. for instance you buy a 20 lot at 1332. i'll buy 5 at 1332 ,5 at 1331.50,5 at 1331 and 5 at 1330.50 for an avg of 1331.25 or so with a stop at 1329.25 vs your 1330 stop. same principal but i get a better avg price. sure it might head straight up and i only get 5 but i'm willing to bet 90% of the time few get the "best" price and averagin lowers the cost base. i'm averaging down from a psotion of strength and nnot panic
     
    #5317     Sep 18, 2006
  8. romik

    romik

    I think we are having a case of crossed wires here. People blow up when they let the losing trade become a bigger loser by adding to a position which is already maxed out.
     
    #5318     Sep 18, 2006
  9. you nailed it right there.................wells said!
     
    #5319     Sep 18, 2006
  10. volente_00

    volente_00




    You have to let the trade work. Why scale when you can get all in, if you are right you catch the move, if you are wrong you lose your stop $. If you scale and are right your opportunity cost is the better price as it moves away from you. If you add as it goes up you are chasing the move. If you add as it goes down you are getting a lower cost but at the expense of adding to a loser.
     
    #5320     Sep 18, 2006
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