S/R Emini Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by 4re, May 15, 2006.

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  1. 4re

    4re

    We actually figure out our entries together. Once the trade is on though we leave each other alone and let the trade play out the way we decide to. Sorry you find it complicated it seems very easy to me. But then I have traded like this in several other markets for years so I guess it would seem that way to me.
     
    #151     May 22, 2006
  2. 4re

    4re

    I could be wrong about this afternoon. Maybe we will get that pullback.
     
    #152     May 22, 2006
  3. saico

    saico

    Just cant figure out the way how you determine which are the ones you're going to trade.
     
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    #153     May 22, 2006
  4. 4re

    4re

    I guess that is kind of hard to explain. We are looking at different times I just post the chart which sems to be the most clear for me. Things we look might be helpful for me to explain.

    1. Highs and Lows the previous day.
    2. Area of congestion ( makes great entries if we break out of them)
    3. Big needle tops and bottoms(When the needle is at least double the length of the candle) When you break out of these are very powerful.
    4. Is there at least 2 points of movement before the next significant area of congestion, needle, or high/low of the day.

    We look at all this in 3,5,10,15 and 30 minute charts. Determine how price was moving when it stopped at these levels. It takes us about 10 minutes to figure out and we usually have secondary ones in case we can't get into our original entry.

    Probably the best way to find out more is from Mark Douglas' book The Disciplened Trader. I have read and re read chapters 15 and 16 so many times it isn't funny. Then one day it just clicked and I understood what he was saying. Seems complicated but it is really very easy when you start understanding WHY price is moving then you can determine where it might move to. I say might because I don't claim to know how to call market tops and bottoms. I just know how to get 2 point at a time. And I know why I am getting it at that level.

    Clear as mud isn't it...Sorry

    4re
     
    #154     May 22, 2006
  5. saico

    saico

    No 4re, much clearer. That definitely helped, thanks!
    I'm going to figure out the levels for tommorrow and will see they match yours.
     
    #155     May 22, 2006
  6. That answers the question. Thanks for the clarification.
     
    #156     May 22, 2006
  7. 4re

    4re

    Good, I am glad that helps. If you want to figure out where you think the S/R levels are good for trading go ahead and do it. Then upload your chart and we can talk about it. There really isn't a right or wrong answer. You could nail it and I am wrong but we both learn. That is what it is all about. It is kind of funny looking at my brothers chart. He doesn't use any indicators at all. He just uses S/R and candlesticks, that is it. He lughs at my charts because I have BB's, and 20, 60 EMA. He says my charts are too cluttered.

    4re
     
    #157     May 22, 2006
  8. 4re

    4re

    Just try to be patient with me here. I am trying. I guess I never really thought anybody would even care to hear about it. But I am just as curious about other trading styles as well. I think people that are used to trading reversals like TI does would have the most trouble changing to breakouts. It is totally opposite trading and it kind of scares you. I just feel like I am guessing when I am looking for a reversal. If I am going to guess I'll go to a Casino where I at least get free drinks.:D
     
    #158     May 22, 2006
  9. 4re

    4re

    The end of the trading session closed right at what my target would have been if I would have tried that trade one more time. Maybe that was an omen for me.

    I will say it is getting hard to determine a good support level since we keep setting new lower lows. Rigth now I would probably use the low of today for tomorrows support. I'll check it out closer after while.

    4re
     
    #159     May 22, 2006
  10. saico

    saico

    Here is my suggestion, 4re.
     
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