S&P 500 - when sh*t hits the fan

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Drawdown Addict, Jan 9, 2025.


  1. I said that clever boys are pointing the SP500 to go down, I never said that I am clever.
     
    #11     Jan 9, 2025
  2. Wide Tailz

    Wide Tailz

    They say that to get fools to go short, which is dangerous in a BULL market!
     
    #12     Jan 9, 2025
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  3. Yeah, if you bet against the SP500 you better have your seatbelt on.
    Many have their 401K chips on that index, which is a strong force to beat down.
     
    #13     Jan 9, 2025
  4. The stock market just follows the Fed balance sheet. With some minor hiccups (buying opps) along the way
     
    #14     Jan 9, 2025
  5. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    joe Biden should have intervened and made the fed lower its balance sheet so the market would crash and Trump could get credit for a rally.
     
    #15     Jan 9, 2025
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  6. nitrene

    nitrene

    I think if the markets head south it might be like the 2000 tech stock meltdown vs. the value stocks represented by DIA or BRK. You have a high P/E Mag7 with 30+ forward P/E and a sub 20 P/E represented by the S&P 493.

    According to my Schwab account:

    SPY 21.8 forward P/E
    RSP 16.8 forward P/E
    MAGS 29.1 forward P/E
    FNGS 32.2 forward P/E

    MAGS == TSLA META AAPL AMZN GOOGL NVDA MSFT
    FNGS == CRWD AVGO NOW META AAPL AMZN GOOGL NVDA NFLX MSFT

    So RSP - FNGS P/E gives you about 16.5 P/E. {[(16.8*500) - (32.2*10)] / 490}
     
    #16     Jan 9, 2025
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  7. Andrew34

    Andrew34

    #17     Jan 10, 2025
  8. cesfx

    cesfx

    Trump and Musk in the government = When shit hits the fan
     
    #18     Jan 10, 2025
  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    It's no secret that with more limited Fed spending, the market must correct or worse.
     
    #19     Jan 11, 2025
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  10. Wide Tailz

    Wide Tailz

    I believe there will be a possible slight correction and a lot of rotation. New leaderz are always starting to move as the old ones stop going up. All those booked profits have to go somewhere, you know!
     
    #20     Jan 11, 2025
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