Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Bullshiat. Ukraine does not even make the list of top world military forces -- much less even making the top 5 in Europe.


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    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1522450/Europe-biggest-military-powers-ranked-EVG
    Nov 17, 2021

    The index uses more than 50 individual factors to determine the PowerIndex score including military might, financials, logistical capability and geography.

    The strongest country by military power in Europe is Russia with a score of 0.080.

    France ranks as the second most powerful with a PwrIndex score of 0.1681.

    The UK ranks as the third most powerful European country - with a score of 0.1997.

    Let's see where the European nations are in the list beyond the top three powers.
    • Italy: PwrIndx Score - 0.2127
    • Germany: PwrIndx Score - 0.2527
    • Spain: PwrIndx Score - 0.2519
    • Poland: PwrIndx Score - 0.3257
    • Ukraine: PwrIndx Score - 0.4187
    • Greece: PwrIndx Score - 0.4954
    • Switzerland: PwrIndx Score - 0.5011
    • Sweden: PwrIndx Score - 0.5345
    • Czech Republic: PwrIndx Score - 0.6204
    • The Netherlands: PwrIndx Score - 0.6391
    • Romania: PwrIndx Score - 0.6953
    • Belarus: PwrIndx Score - 0.8371
    • Portugal: PwrIndx Score - 0.8661
    • Denmark: PwrIndx Score - 0.8921
    • Hungary: PwrIndx Score - 0.9187
    • Finland: PwrIndx Score - 0.9335
    • Slovakia: PwrIndx Score - 0.9451
    • Austria: PwrIndx Score - 0.9705
    • Serbia: PwrIndx Score - 1.0063
    • Croatia: PwrIndx Score - 1.0331
    • Bulgaria: PwrIndx Score - 1.1438
    • Belgium: PwrIndx Score - 1.1809
    • Lithuania: PwrIndx Score - 1.7549
    • Slovenia: PwrIndx Score - 2.0782
    • Latvia: PwrIndx Score - 2.3756
    • Ireland: PwrIndx Score - 2.3861
    • Moldova: PwrIndx Score - 2.6228
    • Estonia: PwrIndx Score - 2.8387
    • Albania: PwrIndx Score - 2.9166
    • Bosnia and Herzegovina: PwrIndx Score - 4.0474
    • Montenegro: PwrIndx Score - 4.3841
    • North Macedonia: PwrIndx Score - 5.0801
    • Kosovo: PwrIndx Score - 19.4791.
     
    #981     Feb 27, 2022
  2. Ukranians kill a major cockroach.

    The Chechnyan/sp fighters are nasty. They are relgious zealots that go nutty and nasty. And they are piling into Ukraine by the pantload to help Putin.

    But - the Ukranians bagged one of the big cockroaches right out of the gate.

    Burn in hell motherfucker. Fuck you and the goddam horse you rode in on you piece of shit.

    It is complicated though. some of the Chechnian and Georgian fighters who resisted the Russians in their countries/regions have also moved into Ukraine to help Ukraine so I dont want give the resistance fighter Chechyans a bad rap. The cockroach who was killed was with Putin's buddy though. I need a scorecard to tell the players.

    ALL OUT WAR
    Hero Ukrainian troops destroy Russian convoy of tanks killing top Chechen general as failed siege leaves Putin ‘raging’

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/4781009/missile-strikes-third-night-fighting-2/
     
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2022
    #982     Feb 27, 2022
  3. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Its not a childhood ailment, its lifelong and you have more than a touch of it, Asperger's. Poor comprehension of people's movies or feelings and emotions is just a part of it.

    Researching after the fact to paper over ignorance as you do is a compulsive behavior associated with it in some people, who were also brought up to be arseholes.
     
    #983     Feb 27, 2022
  4. Heard on CNN or Fox News. Just did a Google search on “2nd largest military in Europe” and “2nd largest land force in Europe”. Was not able to find story I heard. Ok, I have to take the hit for not verifying information from the US news media.

    Shame on me.
     
    #984     Feb 27, 2022
  5. Ukraine is the second largest land mass country in Europe so that might have been what you read or maybe mislead the source of what your read.
     
    #985     Feb 27, 2022
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  6. ph1l

    ph1l

    The controversy over that is yet another international incident.:D
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/16/world/putin-table.html
     
    #986     Feb 27, 2022
  7. Mercor

    Mercor

    This might be one stat used
    Its a complicated question.
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    #987     Feb 27, 2022
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  8. UsualName

    UsualName

    A lot has been made of stingers and javelins but these bayraktars have been eating Russians up.

     
    #988     Feb 27, 2022
  9. Subjective scores? Are you kidding? The most relevant are land and air forces, including missile systems. Germany? How much of US forces are included in that? Looks like I need to dig deeper. Even Wikipedia.org is not showing specific numbers comparing forces on the European Continent, much less discussion on “Relative quality”.

    Maybe I heard right, after all. If so, scary to think the mismatch between Russia and any single other Nato country other than the US. Then again, probably any major power would not be able to safely absorb a first strike on the bulk of its forces by another major power. But that may be preemptive of me.

    Again, Russia dismantling either the next largest modern Army on the European Continent or one of the top armies on the European Continent. Within 24 hours. At least to the point of putting them into a mostly defensive position.

    The next time Russian forces gather on another country’s border, perhaps you would be kind enough to ask which body part their leader is preparing to kiss goodbye.
     
    #989     Feb 27, 2022
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    It is not a complicated question.

    % of GDP military spending means nothing when Ukraine's GPD is less than Texas.
     
    #990     Feb 27, 2022