Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Not surprising anyone -- the soldier who went on a murder rampage in Russia is a Wagner group mercenary recruited from a prison camp. This is an example of the quality of the Russian military.

    Deserter with machine gun who shot policeman in Russia turns out to be Wagner Group soldier
    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/12/7/7379654/

    A deserter who opened fire at a policeman from a machine gun on 6 December was detained in Rostov Oblast (Russia); according to the information from the media outlets, it appears to be a soldier of the Wagner Group, recruited from one of the penal colonies earlier.

    Source: Vasiliy Golubev, Governor of Rostov Oblast, on Telegram; Baza, a Russian media outlet with sources in the security services; Kremlin-aligned news outlet RIA Novosti

    Quote from Golubev: "The criminal is detained. As a result of coordinated operational-search activities, he was detected in an empty building near Novoshakhtinsk. Investigative actions are conducted."

    Details: RIA Novosti outlet, citing the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, reported that the detained soldier is 38 years old and was born in another region.

    According to the data from Baza outlet, this detained deserter is Pavel Nikolin, a soldier of the Wagner Group.

    He was serving a sentence for theft and robbery at the Penal Colony No.4 [city of Ufa, Russia]. He was recruited to the Wagner Group there. But Nikolin changed his mind about going to war on 24 November and escaped.

    As per the Baza’s information, Nikolin had been searched for approximately a day and found at an abandoned pig farm. He was trying to fight back during the detainment.

    Background:
    • It was reported on 6 December that a soldier with a machine gun who wounded a policeman was wanted in Novoshakhtinsk city [Rostov Oblast, Russia].
    • On 13 November, it became known that a citizen of Russia was brutally executed without trial and investigation by tying his head to concrete with tape and hitting him with a sledgehammer from above. Prigozhin, the founder of Wagner Group, hinted that this was the work of his mercenaries. Perhaps, with the help of such a video of execution, Russia is trying to discourage the Russian conscripts from surrendering.
    • After the publication of the video of the execution with a sledgehammer of Yevgeny Nuzhin, a former inmate recruited by the Wagner Group, the recruitment of convicts in the colonies of Siberia and the Far East intensified: only in November, Wagner has "conscripted" people from at least six regions east of the Urals, taking 150-200 people from each penal colony.
    • On 22 November, Politico reported that the members of the European Parliament want to recognize the Wagner Group as a terrorist organisation.
    • Yevgeny Prigozhin, Chief of the Wagner Group, has proposed to give a sledgehammer with fake blood stains to the European Parliament in response to a possible recognition of his group as a terrorist organisation.
    • On 23 November, the European Parliament recognized Russia as a state sponsor of terrorism and called for Wagner Group to be added to the list of terrorist organisations of the European Union.
     
    #8931     Dec 7, 2022
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    this ought to trigger the resident Kremlin shills:

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    #8932     Dec 7, 2022
  3. Some crazy sh#t here.

    I can't get the video to load but there is pic below the video.

    Ruskies gotta Rusk I guess.

    Not sure that is a bathtub. Looks like some kind of shallow sink-deep sink combination to wash clothes in when you don't have a real washing machine. Same idea though.


    Two Russian soldiers brazenly carry bathtub out of someone's home in Ukraine
    Soldiers are seen carrying a bath across muddy ground away from what appears to be a Russian military truck parked next to a warehouse while their colleagues are seen carrying a chair

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/two-russian-soldiers-brazenly-carry-28676626
     
    #8933     Dec 7, 2022
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  4. terr

    terr

    This is hilarious. Russians have been building their anti-tank "dragon teeth" line. Apart from the fact that the way they built it is pretty useless against tanks, even a BMP can ride over it, but now (wait for it) the "teeth" are being stolen and sold on Avito (Russian Ebay)

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    #8934     Dec 7, 2022
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  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    We rarely hear from the Russian propagandists on this thread anymore. I wonder why?

    'Ukraine has won': Russian propagandists believe defeat is now a ‘foregone conclusion’
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...ndists-ukraine-war-defeat-foregone-conclusion

    Putin Is Preparing to Flee When Russia Implodes, Ex-Aide Says
    SINKING SHIP
    “The leader’s entourage has not ruled out that he will lose the war, be stripped of power, and have to urgently evacuate somewhere.”

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/vladi...-russia-implodes-ex-aide-abbas-gallyamov-says
     
    #8935     Dec 7, 2022
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  6. virtusa

    virtusa

    I hope that politicians realize that, if Putin runs to South America, he can start a nuclear war in Europe and destroy that continent. He will be safe in South America, and he does not care about Russians or any other human being. So it would be the ultimate revenge from him.
    As this scenario would also infect China, Putin might skip this scenario, as China would in that case chase after Putin.

    I only hope that Putin does not read on ET.
     
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    #8936     Dec 8, 2022
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    Azov Battalion poster (right) takes inspiration from their Nazi Germany idols (left), even with the far-right slogan "Glory to the nation!"

    Ukraine's main fighting force - openly Nazi - openly parades itself as Hitler's child in genocidal ideology, down to the Nazi Germany "Wolfsangel" logo on their shield.
     
    #8937     Dec 8, 2022
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Oh look.... our resident Russian propagandist and Covid-denier is back pushing the Kremlin's "Ukranians are Nazi's" talking points again. Let's serve up the facts again and take a look at reality. It's sad that the Kremlin propagandists can only fall-back on their ancient and false "Ukranians are Nazis" talking point... but the Russians are very good at "falling back" at this point. Someone may want to point out to the Vatniks that they are losing the war while committing the most war crimes in the recent few decades.

    TLDR: The short answer is No.


    Is there any truth to Russia's 'Ukrainian Nazis' propaganda?

    Russian propagandists are constantly saying Ukraine is full of Nazis, and posting alleged evidence online. DW's fact-checking team has investigated some of this supposed evidence.
    https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-is-there-any-truth-to-russias-ukrainian-nazis-propaganda/a-63970461
     
    #8938     Dec 8, 2022
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yep, the Kremlin is twisted.

    Kremlin Offers Cringey Take on Zelensky Being Named ‘Person of the Year’
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-k...ng-take-on-zelenskys-person-of-the-year-title

    A day after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was named Time magazine’s 2022 “Person of the Year” for galvanizing the country in the face of Russia’s full-scale invasion, the Kremlin suggested the honor was actually part of an “anti-Russian” plot.

    Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov suggested the title had nothing to do with Zelensky facing certain death to remain in the country leading his citizens amid relentless Russian attacks. Instead, he claimed, it’s all part of the “closed-minded, anti-Russian and rabid Russophobic” European “mainstream,” according to Russia’s TASS news agency.

    More than nine months after Moscow launched its full-scale war and failed to take Kyiv in the quick “special military operation” it had planned, Peskov went on to issue another empty call for Zelensky to surrender. “Zelensky knows when this all can end. It could end tomorrow if he wished,” Peskov said.
     
    #8939     Dec 8, 2022

  10. Maybe Putin can be Person of the Year next year and have his pic on the front of TIME.

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    #8940     Dec 8, 2022