Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. virtusa

    virtusa

     
    #8751     Nov 13, 2022
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

  3. terr

    terr

    More Russian propagandists angst.

     
    #8753     Nov 13, 2022
  4. themickey

    themickey

    No Ammo For Training: the Largest Training Ground in russia Is Nothing But Facade (Video)

    November 14, 2022
    https://en.defence-ua.com/news/no_a..._russia_is_nothing_but_facade_video-4847.html
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    Firing training for the mobilized is only "for a picture" / Open source photo
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    Russian mobilized military personnel found itself in a situation where the largest shooting range in the russian federation as big as Monaco cannot provide sufficient training for them
    Mobilized troops stationed near Moscow are critical of the training provided by the russian army command, because the latter decided 15 ammo is enough for every one of them while the main focus is on basic infantry skills such as marching and stationery drill.’

    In open sources, a recent video shows a russian mobilized soldier "attacking" an officer, but there are some more facts that will help to understand the entire picture of what is going on at russian camps.

    First of all, the events of the video take place at the overhyped "Park Patriot" military center which was built under the patronage of russian defense minister Shoigu. The location was disclosed by the infamous "russian armed forces temple" caught by the camera, and the marching drill is carried out at the parking lot.

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    The looks of the "Park Patriot" training center, with an Orthodox Cathedral of the russian armed forces / Photo from the official website

    The main complaint of the mobilized is that they don’t get any marksmanship training and have only walked into a tank training ground to shoot out 15 bullets per person at a "conventional enemy", i.e. it wasn’t even a target shooting.

    It looks very strange considering that the "Park Patriot" has the biggest firing range in whole russia – the so-called "Multifunctional firing center". According to the Center’s official website, there are 29 galleries with a total area of 2.5 square kilometers which is slightly bigger than the area of Monaco.

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    The galleries of the "Multifunctional firing center" / Photo from the official website

    Also, the park has a specialized sniper range for shooting at distances up to 2 km. These are not just galleries, but required equipment as well: proper targets, control and record systems, etc.

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    Firing ranges in the Park Patriot highlighted in red, and tank training grounds in yellow / Open source photo

    That said, the park itself is a property of the ministry of defense of the russian federation and was created with the purposes, aside the funds embezzlement and propaganda, of ensuring pre-conscription training and training in case of a mobilization.

    Why the russian actual mobilized personnel is not being trained there? There could be several explanations. First, there is simply not enough ammunition for all the mobilized. Various sources say more than 300,000 troops have joined the ranks of russian army, however, the reason might be not the shortage of ammunition but adherence to Soviet standards of training mobilized replenishment to the army.

    The second variant is that russian command is well aware of the real lifespan of these mobilized troops in real combat, and thus not willing to waste resources to prepare them properly. Especially reluctant the higher-ups are to the idea of peasants entering the profitable facility: because this firing range was made as solely commercial project for those who feel like making a few shots from an AK or SVD gun, or even "war like ancestors" with good ol' PPSh and DP.

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    A list of WW2-era guns offered for a try at the training center / Info from the official website

    Anyway, this entire "Park Patriot" with all the training looks like a fiction or facade to pass the document check but unable to be of any use when it comes to actually preparing mobilized soldiers before they depart for the war of aggression in Ukraine.
     
    #8754     Nov 14, 2022
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  5. themickey

    themickey

     
    #8755     Nov 14, 2022
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  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    For those foolish enough to consider visiting Russia.

     
    #8756     Nov 14, 2022
  7. virtusa

    virtusa

    #8757     Nov 14, 2022
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #8758     Nov 14, 2022
  9. themickey

    themickey

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    #8759     Nov 14, 2022
  10. Yep, as I have said in previous posts, there are all these articles that point out how mobilization and workers fleeing the country is undermining the economy in Russia.

    But what does not show is the vast, vast, huge number of seasonal/temporary migratory workers that Russia relies upon. Suddenly these workers would rather starve to death than take the risk of crossing into Russia to work. And, no, the free Russian passports that Vlad has been handing out like candy are not considered to be a benefit anymore, because there is a cost that comes with them.

    As I said, just imagine how many working age males flooding across out southern border would be coming if you told them they would be serving in the Russian Army. Shit-hole countries start looking pretty good. Actually it is even worse than all of that. Because the Russians are fleeing into countries and looking for jobs there. So now, some poor country like Mongolia has residents who can no longer cross over into Russia to pick potatoes and there are no jobs in Mongolia but on top of that the Russians are fleeing there and competing for jobs.

    El sucko.
     
    #8760     Nov 14, 2022