Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. virtusa

    virtusa

    #8601     Oct 30, 2022
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  2. virtusa

    virtusa

    #8602     Oct 30, 2022
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Andrei, you've lost another flagship?

    The Russian Black Sea Fleet May Have Lost Another Flagship
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/davida...y-have-lost-another-flagship/?sh=3062717892e6

    The Ukrainian navy for months has been hunting the Russian navy frigate Admiral Makarov. It seems the Ukrainians finally got a shot at the 409-foot, missile-armed vessel in her home port of Sevastopol, in Russian-occupied Crimea.

    The Ukrainian government on Saturday released dramatic videos apparently depicting a successful nighttime strike on Makarov or her sister ship Admiral Essen by at least one unmanned surface vessel.

    The speedboat-size USV, possibly packing hundreds of pounds of explosives, dodged Russian helicopters and small boats and drove directly at the frigate, approaching to within a few feet before the video feed went dead.

    There aren’t yet any photos or videos circulating online that can confirm whether the frigate suffered any damage. In the best case, her crew blew up the drone boat before the drone boat blew up them. In the worst case, Makarov or Essen suffered the kind of waterline damage that quickly can sink a ship. To say nothing of any fires that might have resulted from the blast.

    The daring robotic raid is history repeating itself. Makarov became the flagship of the depleted Russian Black Sea Fleet in April after Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles and shore-based missile crews worked together to sink the previous flagship, the 612-foot cruiser Moskva.

    Even if Makarov remains afloat—and that’s a distinct possibility—the Ukrainians still can count the nighttime strike as a win. There are reports of other Black Sea Fleet ships suffering damage in the raid. And to avoid future USV attacks, the Russians either will have to devote significantly more resources to protecting Sevastopol, or pull the Black Sea Fleet’s three dozen or so surviving vessels from Crimea.

    The Ukrainian navy has been shockingly successful, considering it no longer has any big ships. In the early hours of the initial Russian bombardment on Feb. 23, the crew of Hetman Sahaidachny, the Ukrainian navy’s flagship and only large surface combatant, scuttled the frigate at its moorings in Odesa, Ukraine’s strategic port on the western Black Sea.

    For the first two months of Russia’s wider war on Ukraine, the Russians dominated the Black Sea. Sailing and flying with impunity, they captured tiny Snake Island, 80 miles south of Odesa, and—using the island plus some gas platforms they’d captured from Ukraine as bases for air-defenses and surveillance gear—enforced a blockade of Odesa that effectively cut off Ukraine’s vital grain exports.

    The Black Sea Fleet was poised to attempt an amphibious landing around Odesa. Capturing the port would complete Russia’s conquest of Ukraine’s Black Sea coast and cut off the country from the sea, permanently strangling its economy.

    Russian forces meanwhile captured or scattered the rest of the Ukrainian navy’s ships, including one landing ship and a clutch of armored patrol boats. When the Ukrainians struck back, they did so with land-based missiles, UAVs and USVs.

    The tide began to turn on March 23, when a Ukrainian Tochka ballistic missile hit the Black Sea Fleet landing ship Saratov while she was pierside in the occupied port of Berdyansk. The explosion sank Saratov, damaged at least one other landing ship and underscored the danger Russian ships might face in a direct assault on Odesa.

    Then, on April 13, a Ukrainian navy anti-ship battery put two Neptune missiles into the side of the Russian cruiser Moskva, eventually sinking the 612-foot vessel.

     
    #8603     Oct 30, 2022
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  4. Nobert

    Nobert

    #8604     Oct 30, 2022
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  5. themickey

    themickey

    And there was this....
    Ukrainian fighters eliminated the deputy chief of staff of PMC “Wagner”
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    During a combat mission, soldiers of the Ukrainian special forces “Hort” liquidated the deputy chief of staff of the PMC “Wagner” mercenaries.

    “During the performance of a combat mission, the soldiers of our special forces in close combat encountered a group of militants of the infamous Prigozhin PMC Wagner. The combat contact sent the entire enemy group to hell. Among the two hundredth Wagnerites, the deputy chief of staff was identified,” the report says.

    The servicemen also “captured” the weapon of the liquidated invader – AK-12. Hort noted that the enemy army adopted this assault rifle in 2018.

    • Soldiers of PMC “Wagner” actively participate in the war between Russia and Ukraine. It is known that the majority of members of the Russian PMC “Wagner” are mercenaries from among the former prisoners. They also account for the biggest percentage of deaths.
    • Inmates of Russian prisons suffering from serious infectious diseases, in particular HIV and hepatitis C, began to be massively recruited into the ranks of the “Wagnerites”. Among other militants who are forced to serve alongside the infected, there is growing indignation at this situation.
     
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    #8605     Oct 30, 2022
  6. terr

    terr

    Latest Russian joke:

    Выступают учёные и заявляют "благодаря годам изысканий и кропотливых трудов нам все же удалось получить эликсир бессмертия" и весь мир возликовал "урааа!" и только россияне и беларусы "ну твою же мать!"

    Scientists after years of research and effort announce that they invented an elixir of immortality. The whole world joyfully "hurray" - only Russians and Belarussians: "well damn it all to hell".
     
    #8606     Oct 30, 2022
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #8607     Oct 30, 2022
  8. ph1l

    ph1l

    It's real.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/13/ukraine-us-war-russia-john-pilger
     
    #8608     Oct 30, 2022
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    mobster terrorists, the whole lot of them:

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    #8609     Oct 30, 2022
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I retract what I stated then. All I will note is that there has been an endless pile of fake doctored headlines floating around in recent days aligned with the Russians attempting to portray the the Ukrainians as Nazis back in 2014. It is the latest Kremlin talking point that the western press was saying the Ukrainians were Nazis back in 2014 so the Russian invasion of Ukraine is justified today.
     
    #8610     Oct 30, 2022