Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. themickey

    themickey

    • Germany, E.U. Launch Work on ‘New Marshall Plan’ for Ukraine's Post-War Reconstruction
    Germany, E.U. Launch Work on ‘New Marshall Plan’ for Ukraine's Post-War Reconstruction
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    (L to R) President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen, Prime Minister Of Ukraine Denys Shmyhal and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz address a press conference during the International Expert Conference on the Recovery, Reconstruction and Modernisation of Ukraine in Berlin on Oct. 25, 2022. John MacDougall—AFP via Getty Images

    By Associated Press October 25, 2022
    https://time.com/6224651/new-marshall-plan-ukraine-eu/

    BERLIN — German and European Union leaders gathered experts Tuesday to start work on what Germany’s chancellor described as a “new Marshall Plan” for the rebuilding of Ukraine.

    The Marshall Plan was a U.S.-sponsored initiative that helped revive western European economies after World War II.

    A one-day conference in Berlin was convened to discuss “how to ensure and how to sustain the financing of the recovery, reconstruction and modernization of Ukraine for years and decades to come,” German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said.

    Scholz, who co-hosted the meeting with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, said he’s looking at “nothing less than creating a new Marshall Plan for the 21st century—a generational task that must begin now.”

    Von der Leyen said the World Bank puts the cost of damage to Ukraine so far at 350 billion euros ($345 billion). The EU decided in June to make Ukraine a candidate to join the bloc, and needs “to firmly embed Ukraine’s reconstruction efforts as part of its path toward the European Union,” she said.

    In addition to longer-term help, “Ukraine needs fast rehabilitation right now as we speak” as Russia targets Ukrainian electricity and other infrastructure ahead of the onset of the winter, von der Leyen said. She called those “pure acts of terror.”

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy emphasized that point in a video address from Kyiv. He told the Berlin conference participants that Ukraine has a $17 billion “fast recovery” plan to repair damage to hospitals, schools, transportation and energy infrastructure, and other structures.

    “As of now, we haven’t received a single cent for the implementation of the fast recovery plan,” he said, speaking through an interpreter.

    Scholz underlined Germany’s commitment to keep supplying Ukraine with weapons, including air-defense systems, as long as they are needed.

    “The best reconstruction is the reconstruction that does not have to happen at all because Ukrainian cities and power stations are protected from Russian bombs, drones and missiles,” he said.

    “We do not yet know when this war will end, but end it will,” the German leader said. “From our own historical experience, we also know that reconstruction is always possible and that it is never too soon to tackle this task.”

    Scholz and von der Leyen invited the leaders of Poland and Switzerland, the International Monetary Fund, the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, the European Investment Bank, the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the U.N. Development Program and others to Tuesday’s meeting. Germany currently chairs the Group of Seven industrial powers.

    “We have no time to waste. The scale of destruction is staggering,” von der Leyen said. “We need all hands on deck — the G-7, the European Union, Europe; strong partners like the United States, Canada, Japan, the U.K., South Korea, Australia, New Zealand and many, many more.”
     
    #8551     Oct 25, 2022
  2. terr

    terr

    Speaking of Nazis - this is from the telegram channel of a Russian neo-Nazi organization that is fighting in Ukraine:

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    #8552     Oct 25, 2022
  3. Nobert

    Nobert

    Here's the kicker. They're not complaining that they don't want to fight. It's that they don't have what they need. Makes one to think, maybe truly 80% of em supports this, operation.
     
    #8553     Oct 25, 2022
  4. terr

    terr

    .. and here is a nice collage of Russian neo-Nazis

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    #8554     Oct 25, 2022
  5. terr

    terr

    As I said. They deserve their fate.
     
    #8555     Oct 25, 2022
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  6. It's a little bit like all these Russians fleeing the country and people saying that opposition to the war is growing because so many are leaving.

    Actually, it just means that they are opposed to being mobilized. If they were not being mobilized and the Tatars and kids from Siberia were going to be the only ones fighting the war, they would be okay with it. Many of them anyway. There is growing opposition to the war too. Just saying that not wanting to be mobilized in not necessarily opposition to the war.
     
    #8556     Oct 25, 2022
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  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

     
    #8557     Oct 25, 2022
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    For the past week, Russians have been doing secret work at the nuclear plant in preparations to blow it up to cause a radioactive disaster apparently.

    Ukraine alleges Russian dirty bomb deception at nuke plant
    Ukraine’s nuclear energy operator says Russian forces have performed secret work at Europe's largest nuclear power plant
    https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...ncy-thickens-alleged-dirty-bomb-plot-92052194

    This may be the time to remind everyone that Russia prepared the miners who they brought into Chernobyl to work in radioactive conditions by having them work without clothes -- knowing they would die. Then did nothing to compensate the families.

    Russian troops being trained to fight in radioactive conditions, Moscow claims
    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/russian-t...ve-contamination-moscow-claims-122724362.html
     
    #8558     Oct 25, 2022
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  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Putin-Russian-values.jpg
     
    #8559     Oct 25, 2022
  10. #8560     Oct 25, 2022