Your fantasy is duly noted. Here is the actual factual history - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas_(2014–2022)
This argument is really weak man. Yes, American interventionism and nonchalant bombardment/droning leading to collateral is bad. It doesn't make Russia's intentional civilian targeting good by extension. While we went way overboard, Osama did start it (unlike UA/Russ)
I don't need Wikipedia mate, I know what happened there in full colour and Dolby surround sound. Donbas had an absolute right to disagree with Euromaidan, just like Scotland would have this right if there was to be a similar type of coup over in London, perhaps sponsored by the Argentinians. Funny how Ukraine announced 8,000,000+ people to be terrorists. Never heard shit like that before.
Belarus Boy still playing the game of doing scary things with his troops but not actually entering Ukraine. He may be stupid enough to do it, although the amount of gameplaying he has done, and the number of beatings he has taken from Putin for not doing it would indicate that- although he is an idiot- he knows the consequences. Make a good choice Belly Boy. Choices have consequences. Until then, "near" the border, is not in Ukraine. When he does actually cross in, he will know it. Belarus's Lukashenko warns Ukraine, deploys troops with Russia LONDON, Oct 10 (Reuters) - Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko said on Monday he had ordered troops to deploy with Russian forces near Ukraine in response to what he said was a clear threat to Belarus from Kyiv and its backers in the West. https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...nt-military-group-lukashenko-says-2022-10-10/
Just shakin' my head. "Gudo said they were told by officials that her son's body would be returned from Novosibirsk to Bratsk on October 10, and they were presented with a 180,000-ruble (US$2,900) bill for the cost of transporting it." 'Everyone's Drunk. No Uniforms. No Food.' Inside The Confusion Greeting Some Of Russia's Newly Mobilized Troops https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-mobilization-chaos-deaths-ukraine/32072319.html
Russian Missile Attack Was Prepared a Week Ago – Ukrainian Intelligence October 10, 2022 https://en.defence-ua.com/news/russ...d_a_week_ago_ukrainian_intelligence-4492.html Tu-160 strategic bomber / Open source photo The massive shelling of Ukrainian cities could be not a vengeance for the Crimea Bridge but a cold-bloodedly planned act of aggression Defense Intelligence of Ukraine states that russian forces received an order to prepare for a massive missile attack, that struck 15 out of 25 regions of Ukraine on October 10 morning, in fact, a week prior, on October 2-3. According to the military intel, strategic long-range aviation bases were ordered to prepare for the strikes on Ukrainian critical infrastructure and populous central areas of major cities. Map credit: Google / Infographics: Defense Express On October 8, seven strategic bombers of Tu-160 type were redeployed from Olenya air base to Engels air base and equipped with Kh-101 missiles. In the Black Sea, six missile cruisers with 40 Kalibr missiles were deployed on the raid in the outer waters. The sudden increase in the number of sea-based missile carriers was noted in the report of the Operational Command "South" a few hours before the first strike – four cruisers and two submarines. Aftermath of the russian missile attack on October 10, center of Kyiv / Photo credit: Reuters As suggested by the OSINT community InformNapalm, it is incorrect to link this massive missile attack with the explosion on the Crimea (Kerch) Bridge in some sort of russian "vengeance" for the destruction of an important artery of russian logistics in the south. "Currently, it looks more likely that the explosion on the bridge itself was part of the information campaign in preparation for the massive missile strikes." The analytics assume that president putin needed to "stir up" russian society to show he is still in power and capable to punish those who get in his way with a wave of terror. According to various reports, one to three segments of the Crimean Bridge were destroyed by the explosion on October 8. Three out of four road lines are unusable / Open source photo As for the bridge, InformNapalm says the explosion was set up by russian FSB on a segment that is easy to repair in order to create a pretext for the terroristic answer. On the part of Defense Express, we should note that there are various versions of what caused the explosion in the occupied Crimea, some of them pointing to russian, some to Ukrainian special services. Anyway, the indiscriminate attacks on civilian infrastructure constitute a war crime and cannot be justified by "vengeance".
what would be exact point of excluding Russia? To have another NATO called UN? Most countries outside western bloc don't support US stance on this war What inclusion of Ukraine would accomplish? More everyday histerical performances by thier comedian president? More staged performances Russia is a terrorist state?
Russian troops will return to Belarus in large numbers, Lukashenko says. President Alexander Lukashenko at the Independence Palace in Minsk, Belarus, in May.Credit...Markus Schreiber/Associated Press By Andrew Higgins Oct. 10, 2022 https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/10/world/europe/belarus-russia-ukraine.html WARSAW — President Aleksandr G. Lukashenko of Belarus announced on Monday that Russian troops would return to his country in large numbers, a replay of the military buildup there that preceded Russia’s February invasion of Ukraine. “This won’t be just a thousand troops,” Mr. Lukashenko told senior military and security officials in Minsk, the Belarusian capital, after a meeting over the weekend with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia in St. Petersburg. In rambling remarks reported by the state news agency Belta, Mr. Lukashenko said that work had already started on the formation of what he called a “joint regional group of troops” to counter “possible aggression against our country” by NATO and Ukraine. The Belarusian strongman, who has so far resisted pressure from Moscow to send in his own troops, accused Ukraine, which shares a long border with Belarus, of planning attacks from the south, without citing evidence. “Ukraine doesn’t pose a threat to Belarus. It’s a lie,” Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, a Belarusian opposition leader, said. “I urge the Belarusian military: don’t follow criminal orders, refuse to participate in Putin’s war against our neighbors.” Statements by Mr. Lukashenko, an eccentric and highly erratic dictator, are rarely an accurate guide to current or future events. Just days before Russian troops stationed in Belarus attacked Ukraine in February, he emphatically denied that his territory would be used by Russia, a close ally, to attack his country’s southern neighbor. The establishment of a joint force with Russia will reinforce the view in Ukraine that Belarus is clearly a “co-aggressor,” a label that Mr. Lukashenko has rejected but which took on new force on Monday after a barrage of Russian missile attacks on Kyiv and elsewhere, some of them launched from Belarusian territory, according to Ukrainian officials. He gave no details on Monday of the size or precise purpose of the new joint force, stirring speculation that Belarus might send troops into Ukraine to help Russia’s flailing military campaign. Alternatively, he could be preparing his country for the arrival of thousands of freshly drafted Russian soldiers, some of them former convicts and many of them ill trained. “Be ready to receive these people in the near future and place them where necessary, according to our plan,” Mr. Lukashenko told his military chiefs. During his visit to St. Petersburg, Belarusian state media reported that Mr. Lukashenko had “stressed the need to take measures in case of the deployment of nuclear weapons in Poland,” a remark that some analysts interpreted as preparing the ground for the possible deployment of Russian nuclear weapons in Belarus, something that he has long said would never happen. Artyom Shraibman, a Belarusian political analyst now in exile in Warsaw, said Mr. Lukashenko would likely try to resist deploying his own troops in Ukraine because that “would be so dangerous for him on so many levels. It would be catastrophic politically.” But, Mr. Shraibman added, “it is clear that what is left of his autonomy is eroding as we speak.” Heavily dependent on Moscow for money, fuel and security assistance, all vital to his own survival after 28 years in power, Mr. Lukashenko is widely believed to be under growing Russian pressure to get more involved in the Ukraine war. Russia massed tens of thousands of troops in Belarus before its February invasion and used Belarusian territory as a staging ground for its initial, unsuccessful assault on Kyiv, the Ukrainian capital. Moscow still has hundreds of troops in Belarus, from which it launches missiles and bombing raids, but their number is now expected to increase sharply. Andrei Sannikov, who served as deputy foreign minister under Mr. Lukashenko during his early period in power but fled into exile after being jailed, said Mr. Lukashenko was “running scared,” caught between pressure from Russia to help its demoralized forces in Ukraine and the knowledge that sending in Belarusian troops would be hugely unpopular, even among his loyalists. He predicted that ultimately “his boots will inevitably be on the ground in Ukraine” because Mr. Lukashenko “has no real choice.” “He is not taking decisions on the war. Putin takes all the decisions and tells Lukashenko what to do,” Mr. Sannikov said. Andrew Higgins is the bureau chief for East and Central Europe based in Warsaw. Previously a correspondent and bureau chief in Moscow for The Times, he was on the team awarded the 2017 Pulitzer Prize in International Reporting, and led a team that won the same prize in 1999 while he was Moscow bureau chief for The Wall Street Journal.