Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Im guessing its probably hard to get into there.
     
    #8021     Oct 3, 2022
  2. themickey

    themickey

    Due to Covid, NZ & Aust are screaming out for immigrants, they will often screen you on your age, skills and how much moolah you bring into the country, then the immigrant needs to weigh up whether they can afford to live because the RE competition is fierce, you'll get tackled to the ground, then they do a Haka over you. :)
     
    #8022     Oct 3, 2022
  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Going to look into that.I have a few friends and family who said they might be willing to move to Canada now I have to try to talk them into NZ :banghead:
     
    #8023     Oct 3, 2022
  4. terr

    terr

    More Russian media calls for censorship: this time "internal censorship" - censor yourself.

     
    #8024     Oct 3, 2022
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  5. terr

    terr

    A video where the LNR soldiers talk about the withdrawals from the Kharkiv region:

    (Note - when they say Russians they mean official Russian troops, not from the Lugansk "People's Republic".

    -Remember Drobyshevo!

    -Hold for one night! We held.
    -Hold for two days! We did
    -3 more days! Ok 3 more.
    -and so on for 2 weeks of war
    -and the Russians left, they were told "Listen, don't tell the LNR soldiers anything...
    -we are leaving, but don't tell the LNR soldiers
    -because they have to stay here.
    -How's that?
    -At least some Russians were not animals, they came and told us quietly
    -(whispers) They told us to withdraw but told us not to tell you. We're leaving.
    -Who said that?
    -Russians
    -Some came and said "We have an order to withdraw but we were told not to tell you that we're withdrawing..."
    -So that we run away but you won't know about it
    -Someone has to cover their ass...

     
    #8025     Oct 4, 2022
  6. UsualName

    UsualName

    People are over blowing this Elon Musk stuff. He is allowed to not have a good idea of peace in Ukraine and be wrong. There’s too much villainizing people because they are sharing ideas. Mush actually helped and continues to help Ukraine with star link internet service!
     
    #8026     Oct 4, 2022
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    There is a difference between sharing ideas and pushing the Kremlin's current talking points. This entire situation blew up completely in Musk's face. Zelensky and other Ukrainian leaders called Musk out on it directly.

    Zelensky responds to Musk poll with one of his own: ‘Which Elon Musk do you like more?’
    https://thehill.com/homenews/367240...-of-his-own-which-elon-musk-do-you-like-more/
     
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    #8027     Oct 4, 2022
  8. A lot of tough criticism flying around, day after day now in regard to Russian military leadership. Nevertheless, it is still somewhat amazing how all the critics go out around Shoigu- the leading clown who got him into this "3-day war." They know that Putin and Shoigu are/were buddy-buddy, vacation together at Vlad's villas and also to places in Tuva where Shoigu is from. The guy is a loser but he is Vlad's loser so the critics get ballsy now in criticizing the military leadership but they still watch their arses when it comes to Shoigu.

    The protection of Shoigu may collapse soon, but he should have been the first, not the last, to pay the price. Can't stand in the way of love between Vlad and Tuva Boy I guess.

    Instead they cherry pick generals here and generals there to criticize. Hello. Who is the Defense Minister in this clown show?

    Ukraine war: Lyman retreat sparks rare criticism of Russian top brass

    One of the first to react to the loss of Lyman was Ramzan Kadyrov, the strongman leader of Russia's Chechnya Republic and a staunch supporter of President Vladimir Putin.

    In a Telegram post on 1 October, he singled out General Alexander Lapin, commander of Russia's Central Military District, and senior officers at the Russian General Staff for the loss.

    "Were it up to me, I would have demoted Lapin to private, stripped him of his awards, given him an assault rifle and sent him to the front to wash away his shame with blood," he declared in his post, which has been viewed more than 7.6m times.

    His criticism of the Russian military command was later endorsed by Kremlin ally Yevgeny Prigozhin, a media mogul and founder of the Wagner private military company.


    "The expressive statement by Kadyrov is not entirely in my style. But I can say to it, Ramzan, you're a star, say it like it is!" he said in a press release put out by his Konkord company on their VK social media page.



    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63127911
     
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    #8028     Oct 4, 2022
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Russian forces poised for ‘major defeat’ in Kherson, says DoD official
    https://www.militarytimes.com/penta...or-major-defeat-in-kherson-says-dod-official/

    The Pentagon’s international affairs chief said Monday that Russia’s new losses in the strategic southern Kherson region are about to spiral into a “major defeat” that would give Ukraine a defensive position amid “hot fighting” expected this winter.


    After news that Ukrainian forces broke through Moscow’s defenses in Kherson, which Moscow saw as the gateway to Odessa, Assistant Defense Secretary for International Security Affairs Celeste Wallander said the Ukrainians were on the verge of pushing back the main Russian bridgehead across the Dnipro River.

    “That would be a major defeat for Russia because it pushes back even more Russia’s ambition to take Odessa, which was one of the stated objectives earlier this year,” Wallander said at a Center for Strategic and International Studies event.

    “It gives Ukraine another defensive position to ride out what probably will be hot fighting over the winter,” Wallander said, adding that in spite of Ukraine’s recent strategic successes, the U.S. and international community must continue to supply Ukraine with aid.

    Already, Russia’s recent loss of the town Lyman, which its forces used as a logistics hub in Ukraine’s eastern Donetsk region, would “significantly affect Russia’s ability to supply, resupply and move its forces all along that forward line of conflict,” she said.

    A senior U.S. military official said that Russian troops had fallen back to Kremmina, a town more than 30 kilometers east of Lyman. Denying Russia Lyman could impact its supply lines along the eastern front down to Bakhmut, a contested city 60 kilometers south of Lyman where the fighting continues.

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky announced Sunday that Russian forces were cleared from Lyman, one of the four areas in Ukraine that Russian President Vladimir Putin annexed last week.

    Putin’s land grab has threatened to push the conflict to a dangerous new level. After U.S. President Joe Biden said last week the U.S. would never recognize Russia’s claims on those regions, Putin said he would consider the use of “all available means” to protect the territory ― which has been seen as a threat to use nuclear weapons.

    Speaking Sunday on “Fareed Zakaria GPS,” U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin called Putin’s threats “an illegal claim” and “an irresponsible statement.”

    “This nuclear saber-rattling is not the kind of thing we would expect to hear from leaders of large countries with capability,” Austin said, adding that, while he has warned his Russian counterpart about this path in the past, the decision is Putin’s.

    Austin has not ruled out that Putin would act on his threats.

    “There are no checks on Mr. Putin. Just as he made the irresponsible decision to invade Ukraine, you know, he could make another decision. But I don’t see anything right now that would lead me to believe that he has made such a decision,” Austin said.

    Separately, Wallander said NATO should be asserting its unity and nuclear capability in answer to Russia’s “facile reliance on nuclear threats.”

    Asked about the alliance’s plans since Russia invaded Ukraine seven months ago, Wallander hailed NATO’s new multinational battlegroups along its eastern border. She also said its members increasingly see spending targets “as a floor not a ceiling” and want to focus that spending on both modernization and ― with an eye on Russia’s hollow forces ― advanced training.

    “I think the old debate about ‘is it deterrence by tripwire, deterrence by denial?’ is behind us now. It’s clear that what you need is an effective, credible defensive capability in order to deter an adversary, in this case, Russia,” Wallander said.

    “What that credible defense looks like varies by areas of Europe. It includes not just ground forces, it includes air defense, it includes maritime domain, so it is multi-dimensional, but allies are really digging into what that looks like in their national capabilities,” she said.

    Beyond billions in military, financial and humanitarian aid for Ukraine, Wallander said discussions within the U.S. about reconstruction aid are already underway. Wallander said the European Union, World Bank, International Monetary Fund should be involved.

    “I think the main message is that it’s not the United States alone, it is actually these international institutions. And, and I think the Europeans have a strong commitment to supporting Ukraine,” Wallander said.
     
    #8029     Oct 4, 2022
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    I think Putin will try to kill him for it.Musk isn't a government official so there won't be major repercussions.
     
    #8030     Oct 4, 2022