Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. Pooty-Boy needs to hurry up and get his "new recruits" down to Ukraine because the war is still very much in progress while he is dealing with his mobilization clean-up on aisle 6.

    Oh, and tell the recruits to bring some equipment with them. Equipment does not last long where they are going.

    Russia suffered significant losses of military equipment both in the air and on the ground over the last 24 hours, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have said in their latest update.

    Ukraine's military said on Friday that over the previous day, Russia had lost 18 tanks, a helicopter and a fighter jet, as well as 14 artillery systems and eight Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (MLRS).

    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-putin-kremlin-1745631
     
    #7661     Sep 23, 2022
  2. easymon1

    easymon1

    WTF are you on about. Spit it out.
    You make no sense with your these and those.
    If you are talking to me, do so.
    Get Specific, piezoe.
    Point by Point.
     
    #7662     Sep 23, 2022
  3. piezoe

    piezoe

    Thanks for that viewpoint. It's very interesting to me. I guess we should learn much in the next few months. What I'll be looking for is an indication that "this rebellious instinct" really has been "bred" out of the Russian population, as you suggest, or whether it is just suppressed and will surface if people are pushed far enough.
     
    #7663     Sep 23, 2022
  4. piezoe

    piezoe

    My impression is that our sources of news are very different. There are some people that it would be a waste of time for me to try and have a dialog with. It seems you are one of them.
     
    #7664     Sep 23, 2022
  5. terr

    terr

    You have an indication right now. In Russia, right now, as we post here, literally tens of thousands of men meekly and without protest left their jobs, families, mortgages etc. and are preparing to go to die for no good reason whatsoever - because of an official piece of paper they received in the mail or was handed to them. And hundreds of thousands more will follow.

    When your life is in danger, there is a normal human instinct to do one of three things: fight, flee, or freeze

    In Russia, it seems that maybe 2-3% follow the first instinct, maybe 3-5% (maybe even up to 10%?) follow the second. The rest - freeze and meekly follow orders.
     
    #7665     Sep 23, 2022
  6. terr

    terr

    Here's an example of the absolute idiocy of an average Russian (and from my watching this situation, really, this is an average Russian)

    His post: he's trying to flee (I presume because of the mobilization) to Georgia, and they turned him away at the border because he forgot to remove a Z from his windshield. He's fuming: "Georgians, you're next for denazification" (and he misspells that too)

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    #7666     Sep 23, 2022
  7. terr

    terr

    Speaking of stewing in their own juices. Toyota has stopped production of their cars in their Sankt Peterburg's factory a couple of months, for lack of foreign-produced parts. Today they gathered all the workers for a meeting and announced that the factory is closing. All the workers lost their jobs.

    Ah but they will probably just be mobilized anyway.
     
    #7667     Sep 23, 2022
  8. terr

    terr

    Another example of a typical Russian. It is hard to imagine that some can be THAT stupid but here it is:

    "I stood [in a car line] for 17 hours on the border with Georgia, <expletive> you can't imagine.

    It was horrible.

    I didn't eat or drink anything.

    And all that is because of those <expletive> Ukrainians I am just so pissed off that they decided to attack us.

    <Expletive> I wish they all die for what we have to go through now, <expletive>.

    You understand, <expletive> 17 hours on the border so that these American [well, Ukrainian but Russians think there are lots of Americans there (terr)] bastards don't kill me."




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    #7668     Sep 23, 2022
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    It's amazing that people can be so brainwashed and ignorant --- but not surprising after what they have been fed by the Russian state media.
     
    #7669     Sep 23, 2022
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

     
    #7670     Sep 23, 2022