Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. I see a hefty number of Putin health rumor articles making the rounds again in the last couple days. Some new videos showing him shaking and looking like crap. I read them, but they are persuasive to me because he is under so much pressure that he can easily look like he is beat up just from that. He created some of this rumor mill himself by promoting- over the years- all these videos showing him as allegedly being super strong and healthy. He looks too crappy now to pull off that scam anymore but that does not make him terminally ill. Probably just aging and trying to deal with this Ukraine fuck-up. Plus people reading those articles- myself included- want him to be dead so that does bias your thinking a bit, eh. He could very well be ill. I am just saying that a case for that has not been made.

    Having said that, there are little things that get my attention. One is his canceling his annual Q&A session with the public, one of his favorite little circus routines. You could argue that he just does not want to walk into some tough questions about Ukraine but all those questions are rigged and where they are not he has a pre-packaged propaganda answer and nobody dares to mess with him, so I don't buy that.

    Another thing I see being reported by several media is that he has developed a sudden need to bring in his birdbrain daughter, the kabuki dancer or whatever it is, and position her as leader of one of the russian parties and run her for parliament. Or should I say "install" her. With some sources speculating that he wants to prop her role up so that if he is sick or diminished in some way that he will lean on her and work through her more, especially as he gets too paranoid to trust anyone else. Don't know.

    Bottom line is that I am somewhat of a moderate on this Putin health thing. I don't have any reason yet to believe that he has a serious illness. On the other hand, if you checked his dipstick you would probably find that he is down a couple quarts compared to the previous vlad for whatever reasons. Something is not right with him.

    Things were easier with Boris Yeltzin. If you just assumed that he was drunk or severely, severely hung over and that alcoholism was killing him, you pretty much had it right.


    Vladimir Putin cancels annual TV event amid failing health rumours
    https://www.news.com.au/world/europ...s/news-story/6b289e0588b0d042825c5a201f6efc2f



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    #5511     Jun 12, 2022
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I tend to think that media and people hoping that Putin expires in the near term due to health issues are being overly hopeful. Nothing more than wishful thinking by people in the West.
     
    #5512     Jun 12, 2022
  3. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Whether his health improved or not after cancer surgery or other (probably not the antler horn blood baths) , he very much seems to have been seriously ill before the invasion.

    His usual brutal but comparatively logical mind was compromised by mortality.

    Everyone is in the shit now because of his dreams of being remembered.
     
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    #5513     Jun 12, 2022
  4. Yes. I said as much.

    But I also believe that he is down a couple quarts. Functioning at a lower level. Not sure whether that is age, situational, or health- including mental health or lack thereof.
     
    #5514     Jun 12, 2022
  5. Nobert

    Nobert

    And what is the solution ?
    To pull back, allow Russian Zombies to dig in and then few years down the line, wait for another strike ?

    Only then, Ukraine would have more than howitzers.
     
    #5515     Jun 13, 2022
  6. smallfil

    smallfil

    Ukraine is losing this senseless war. The only reason Joe Biden and NATO is prolonging it is to enrich the arms manufacturers and them getting campaign cash. This is not about helping Ukraine win. Ukraine army and civilians are just cannon fodder. Zelensky will do as his masters tell him as he is getting billions of dollars in the process. This is the same Ukraine too that was investigating Hunter Biden and Burisma until Joe Biden threatened to withhold US aid then, if the prosecutor was not fired. Zelensky fired the prosecutor. That was all on video tape by the way and Joe Biden bragged about the firing of the prosecutor then. Ending the war now, will save lives atleast.
     
    #5516     Jun 13, 2022
  7. kashirin

    kashirin

    Russian don't use rape - maybe isolated incidents but not on systemic levels. Everyone knows that.

    Those who still try to play rape card even after Ukrainan themselves debunked that loses all credibility
    So basically whatever you write on this board is totally fake after insisting on bizzare rape accusations

    SImple as that

    And Ukraine totally loses anyway. LOL
     
    #5517     Jun 13, 2022
  8. you talking to a brick wall. Z for заебали.
     
    #5518     Jun 13, 2022
  9. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    You are an idiot and are talking to a guy who was nearly killed in his sleep by one of your honourable Russian citizens. Lesson learned well as a young man.
     
    #5519     Jun 13, 2022
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  10. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Tell me about it, been talking to Trump supporters for years now locked into the equivalent of Russian state news. Personality cultists and the poorly educated.

    Putin's Nazis are Trump's Mexican rapists etc. The same through history, there has to be an existential threat to unify against a weak and stupid Khokhol to win against bla bla.

     
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    #5520     Jun 13, 2022