Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. Ukrainians are going to be on Biden's arse bigtime for now sending long range missiles.

    This is true regardless of whether one thinks he should or should not have done so. The Ukrainians are going to argue that they had to withdraw for lack of the missiles and other support.

    His new press secretary will be doing some splainin. And that will be a disaster in addition to Biden's own disastrous explanations.
     
    #5321     May 30, 2022
  2. themickey

    themickey

    Adviser who helped Vladimir Putin rise to power quits
    May 31, 2022 https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe...utin-rise-to-power-quits-20220531-p5aps6.html

    London: Valentin Yumashev, the son-in-law of former Russian leader Boris Yeltsin who helped Vladimir Putin come to power, has quit his role as a Kremlin adviser, two people familiar with Yumashev’s thinking told Reuters.

    Yumashev was an unpaid adviser with limited influence on Putin’s decision-making, but his departure removes one of the last links inside Putin’s administration to Yeltsin’s rule, a period of liberal reforms and Russia’s opening up towards the West.

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    Russian President Vladimir Putin attends a meeting of the Supreme Eurasian Economic Council via videoconference in Moscow, Russia.Credit:AP

    Though Putin’s policies over the years have diverged from the values that Yeltsin espoused, the Russian leader has kept his ties to the former first family.

    Putin ordered his armed forces to attack Ukraine on February 24 in an invasion that Western governments say is an act of unjustified aggression and which Moscow calls a “special operation” necessary to protect Russian-speakers in eastern Ukraine.

    In March, Anatoly Chubais, another senior Yeltsin-era figure, left his role as Kremlin special envoy. This month, a diplomat in Russia’s mission to the United Nations resigned over the war.

    Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Yumashev’s leaving his adviser role, and did not answer a call to his mobile number.

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    Valentin Yumashev.Credit:Cucushka12-CC

    Yumashev did not respond to a request for comment sent by Reuters.

    Lyudmila Telen, first deputy executive director of the Boris Yeltsin Presidential Centre foundation, where Yumashev is a member of the board of trustees, told Reuters that Yumashev had given up his Kremlin adviser role in April.

    Asked why he left, she said: “It was his initiative.”

    A second person familiar with Yumashev’s thinking, who spoke on condition of anonymity, also said that Yumashev in April ceased to be a presidential adviser.

    Under Yeltsin, who was Russian president from 1991 to 1999, Yumashev served as a Kremlin adviser and later as Kremlin chief of staff.

    He is married to Yeltsin’s daughter Tatyana.

    Yumashev was running the presidential administration in 1997 when Putin, a former KGB spy who had been given a middle-ranking administrative job in the Kremlin a year earlier, was promoted to be deputy Kremlin chief of staff.

    That promotion provided the springboard for Putin to be anointed as Yeltsin’s heir apparent, and win a presidential election in 2000 after Yeltsin had stepped down.

    In January 2020, according to the Kremlin website, Putin visited Yeltsin’s daughter Tatyana at her home to congratulate her on her birthday.

    The adult daughter of Valentin Yumashev and Tatyana, Maria, posted on her Instagram account on February 24 an image of the Ukrainian flag, along with the words “No to war,” and a broken-heart emoji.

    Reuters
     
    #5322     May 30, 2022
  3. virtusa

    virtusa

    #5323     May 31, 2022
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Uh oh.



    Right:

     
    #5324     May 31, 2022
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  6. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Tackleberry the good guy with a gun wannabe fantasist mall ninja (who used to telegraph his fantasies about killing black robbers) finds a random conspiracy lady in Australia tweet.

    Yep, it's a Tuesday.
     
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    #5326     May 31, 2022
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  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Where is @Master Pu -- we expected he would be here boasting loudly about Russia's troll farm success claims in knocking down drones.

     
    #5327     May 31, 2022
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  8. :rolleyes:

    So far, looks like the aforementioned "'splainin" is not going that well.

    Walkin' back the walk-backs to the walk-backs.

    Such is the nature of communications from Camp Biden.

    White House Walks Back Biden Ruling Out Rockets for Ukraine

    https://www.newsweek.com/white-house-walks-back-biden-ruling-out-rockets-ukraine-1711491
     
    #5328     May 31, 2022
  9. UsualName

    UsualName

    I think the issue was where they can be positioned because of their long range capabilities being able to get well into Russia.
     
    #5329     May 31, 2022
  10. More precisely it is about which missiles are supplied to be loaded into the launching system.

    The launch system will support both medium and long range missiles, and it is clear that they are being used in the east. They may still want/get the launch system even if they do not get the longer range missiles.

    Unlike Russia which- for example- hit that Ukrainian training base outside Kiev in the first couple days of the war with a cruise missile launched from the Black Sea.

    The Americans should just tell the Ukrainians that they are free to launch at any distance that does not exceed what the Russians are doing.

    Whatever the Americans do they ideally should not have and continue to work out their policy of TV or allow Biden to say anything when he is not accompanied by a guardian. That is distinctly untidy and dangerous.
     
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    #5330     May 31, 2022