Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Like I'll take lessons on Russian mentality from a brainwashed propagandist
     
    #3091     Mar 28, 2022
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  2. I am just stating the obvious, that you do not have the understanding of how Russians roll, hence you post both stupid and naive suggestions.
     
    #3092     Mar 28, 2022
  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    all your predictions on Russians have been wrong so far. I'll stick with my odds
     
    #3093     Mar 28, 2022
  4. What predictions on Russians? Anyhow, time will tell.
     
    #3094     Mar 28, 2022
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    #3095     Mar 28, 2022
  6. themickey

    themickey

    Opinion
    Putin’s war is proving a grave misjudgment: four metrics tell the story

    Peter Hartcher Political and international editor March 29, 2022 https://www.smh.com.au/national/put...r-metrics-tell-the-story-20220327-p5a8ei.html

    The great powers behind each side of the war in Ukraine announced new strategies over the weekend. Both the Russian and US pronouncements contain strong elements of fantasy.

    Russia’s invasion of Ukraine “is being conducted by the General Staff in strict accordance with the approved plan,” according to head of the Russian general staff’s main operational department, Sergei Rudskoy.

    Yes, it’s all going so well.

    Russia’s forces were nearing the end of the first phase of their “special military operation”. Remember, don’t call it a war. You can go to jail for saying so in Russia under its new laws against “fake news” as defined by Vladimir Putin.

    “The main objectives of the first stage of the operation have generally been accomplished. The combat potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been considerably reduced,” said Rudskoy.

    A top Russian general claims the "first stage" of Russia's military plan is now complete, with their primary focus now centred on eastern Ukraine.

    “Our forces and resources will focus on the primary objective: full liberation of Donbas.” It will hold its positions around Ukraine’s main cities while it concentrates on total domination of Donbas, the eastern strip of the country that Russian-backed separatists have occupied since 2014.

    So, according to Moscow, Russia spent a month, lost between 7000 and 15,000 soldiers on NATO’s estimate, lost a medium-sized nation’s worth of military hardware, brought down onto Russia devastating international sanctions just so that it could fully conquer an area it has part-dominated for eight years.

    And it’s made Russia a pariah state, Putin the most loathed man on earth and the leader of the supposed enemy state of Ukraine an international hero. If that truly was the plan, it was either a pretty silly plan or the whole announcement is a fantasy.
    A fantasy of victory to cover Putin’s exposure as a lousy strategist and his army’s embarrassment as ineffectual fighters.

    US President Joe Biden also was guilty of a bit of fantasising. At the end of a speech delivered in the Polish capital of Warsaw, Biden delivered an impromptu punchline. The speech was designed to show NATO’s resolve to defend “every inch” of its members’ territory against any Russian intrusion.

    But he added the nine words that then hijacked the intended message. “For God’s sake, this man cannot remain in power,” Biden said. This apparently was a call for Putin’s removal as Russian president. If so, it would have overturned US and NATO policy and set the alliance on an entirely new course. Instead of a defensive alliance to protect its members, it would have cast NATO as an aggressive one pursuing the Russian leadership.

    Except for the fact that Biden’s administration immediately contradicted his comment to assure the world that the pre-existing policy remained unchanged. Biden’s Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, had to correct his leader’s words. The President had committed a serious gaffe.

    Biden seems to have indulged a bit of a fantasy. He was wishing Putin away. Everything Putin has done in his two decades in power has had the overriding imperative of keeping himself there.

    This includes the fabricated charges of fraud against his most effective critic, the fearless Alexei Navalny. He was already in one of Putin’s jails. Last week’s court order is intended to keep him there; Navalny was sentenced to another nine years’ jail in a maximum security facility. For supposed financial fraud.

    Putin is not going to be removed easily. Was Biden suffering a bit of a “senior moment”? Possibly. But he has a long history of stray remarks. He’s so prone to gaffes that he once called himself a “gaffe machine”. It seems he was speaking aloud his inner wish - that Putin somehow would vanish.

    Fantasies or not, there is a shared reality underlying both the Russian and American pronouncements. Putin’s war is proving to be a grave misjudgment. Until now, Russia’s armed might has allowed it to stride the world like the superpower it once was. First contact with Ukraine’s forces has shattered that image.
    The Chancellor of Germany, Olaf Scholz, last week summarised Russia’s situation: “Putin’s offensive is stuck despite all the destruction that it is bringing day after day.” The sanctions imposed on Russia’s economy, he said, are “just the beginning, many of the toughest consequences will only be seen in the coming weeks,” and that “we are constantly creating sanctions”. The war is not only destroying Ukraine, said Scholz, “but also Russia’s future”.

    The Russian and US fantasises as spoken on the weekend both seem based on the same reality – Russia’s embarrassing failures are generating excuses from Moscow and encouraging the West to hope and even to dream. Putin’s war has revived the purpose of the West and given it new resolve that no one predicted just a month ago.

    The Russian failures can be measured in four metrics. Seven is the number of days that it took Russia’s 64 kilometre long column of tanks and trucks and troops to fall apart uselessly without ever getting to its destination of Kyiv. An impressive case of incompetence.

    Ten is the number of times that Russia installed helicopters and other forces in a captured Ukrainian air base in the town of Chornobayivka, only to have them all destroyed by Ukrainian artillery bombardments. Every time. An astonishing inability to adapt.
     
    #3096     Mar 28, 2022
  7. terr

    terr

    From the article: "Fifteen is the number of Russian senior commanders to die so far in the war according to Ukraine’s Ministry of Defence, a rate unmatched in any of Russia’s other wars since World War II. Of the 15, seven were generals, two were killed in Chornobayivka, and one apparently committed suicide. A colonel died after his own troops hit him with a tank deliberately."

    It is not 15. MSM keep repeating that number, but it is wrong. 2 Lt Generals, 5 Major Generals and 18 Colonels. 19 if you include the one who reportedly committed suicide. So far.
     
    #3097     Mar 28, 2022
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  8. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Run over with a tank huh?
    Lol. :D
    How the f did he make flag rank?
    Squish.

    Edit... oh ok, I re-read that. He was only a colonel. But still.... squish.
     
    #3098     Mar 28, 2022
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  9. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Chris Rock:

    "What do you call a Russian colonel that gets run over by his own tank?"

    >>>"A 'white Russian'... Cause there ain't no way a brother would be that fucking stupid."
     
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    #3099     Mar 28, 2022
  10. The power of the media is greatly presented in a joke.

    Year 1980. Hitler is in hell reading a newspaper and next to him there is Himmler.

    Himmler: Adolf, look at today's tanks. If we had tanks like these ones, we would have won ze war in 12 months!
    Hitler ignoring Himmler continues to read the newspaper...
    Himmler: Adolf, look at today's ships. If we had ships like these ones, we would have won ze war in 6 months!
    Hitler ignoring Himmler continues to read the newspaper...
    Himmler: Adolf, look at today's fighter jets. If we had fighter jets like these ones, we would have won ze war in 1 month!!!!
    Hitler puts down the newspaper and says to Himmler: Forget all the weapons Heinrich. If we had such a newspaper, nobody would know we lost ze war!!!
    The name of the newspaper was Pravda.


    In democratic countries, mainstream media should be unbiased, balanced, objective, open-minded and avoid favouring one side over another. Unfortunately, this is not the case. Regulation of media is mostly limited to national news, not much regulation exists when reporting world news. This is certainly the case for BBC.
     
    #3100     Mar 28, 2022