Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. UsualName

    UsualName

    #2851     Mar 23, 2022
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  2. UsualName

    UsualName

    Fortress Russia didn’t turn out to be so impenetrable after all. And as I mentioned before, almost no one counted on virtually every international business leaving Russia to make matters worse.
     
    #2852     Mar 23, 2022
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  3. elderado

    elderado

    The Biden Administration is entirely fraudulent.

     
    #2853     Mar 23, 2022
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  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Chad Biden bringing spring w/him
     
    #2854     Mar 23, 2022
  5. With the usual caveat that I do not know what is true or what might be cranked up propaganda or excessively aspirational speech that goes with wartime, nevertheless, holy shiite, to some of this if true. Pardon my grammar but it don't have a good look to it.
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    “They couldn’t even send off the 200s here,” he said, using a Russian military term for dead bodies. “They rode with us for five days.”

    It’s a Sh*tshow’: Russian Troops Are Now Turning on Each Other

    MADHOUSE
    “Even in Chechnya, there was nothing like this,” a soldier told a pal in an intercepted call, and reports emerge of another getting so fed up he ran over his colonel with a tank.

    Two Russian soldiers have been caught venting about Putin’s “bullshit” war against Ukraine in an intercepted phone call as devastating losses reportedly led one soldier to drive over his colonel with a tank.

    “Basically, it’s a shitshow here, I’ll put it that way,” an unnamed soldier near Mykolaiv in southern Ukraine can be heard telling a colleague in a recording released by Ukraine’s Security Service late Tuesday.


    After telling his friend that Ukrainian forces “tore apart” a column of Russian forces sent along with his own unit, he described complete disarray among the Russian military, with 50 percent of the unit suffering from frostbite on their feet.

    “But they don’t plan to treat them in the [field] hospital,” he said.


    On the fourth day of their deployment, he said, the general commanding the unit, General-Lieutenant Yakov Rezantsev, told them it’d be over quickly.

    “Do you know what he told us? ‘It’s no secret to anyone that there are only a few hours until this special operation is over.’ And now those hours are still going.”

    He said soldiers are complaining about having Kevlar vests that lack the hard-armor panel, but they are ignored.

    “‘Comrade General, damn it, I have this situation,’” he recalled troops telling their leader. “And he just says, ‘Son, be strong,’ and then he fucks off. It’s such trash here… our own plane dropped a bomb on us,” he said.


    “They couldn’t even send off the 200s here,” he said, using a Russian military term for dead bodies. “They rode with us for five days.”

    “Even in Chechnya, there was nothing like this,” he said, describing the situation as a “madhouse.”

    “This ‘special operation,’ damnit… with respect to homes not meant to be destroyed… it’s bullshit.”

    Even though “on TV” they said the Russian troops were advancing, they were actually surrounded “on all sides” by Ukrainian forces, he said.

    The damning conversation was released as reports surfaced that things were so bad for Russian troops that it led one soldier to attack a colonel he blamed for troop losses.

    Ukrainian journalist Roman Tsymbaliuk reported Wednesday that two tactical groups of Russian soldiers in Makarov, in the Kyiv region, lost at least half of their men in battles against Ukrainian forces.

    One of the Russian soldiers “blamed the commander of the group, Col. Yury Medvedev, for the deaths of his friends,” Tsymbaliuk wrote on Facebook.


    “Having waited for the right moment, during battle, he ran over the commander with a tank as he stood next to him, injuring both his legs. Now Col. Medvedev is in a hospital in Belarus, waiting for monetary compensation for combat wounds received during the ‘special military operation to protect the Donbass.’ Colonel Medvedev was awarded the Order of Courage,” he wrote.

    The Daily Beast could not independently confirm Tsymbaliuk’s version of events, but Putin lackey and Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov confirmed Medvedev was injured during fighting in a VK post this month.

    Alongside a video of an injured Medvedev being evacuated on March 11 by Chechen troops sent in to bolster Russian forces, Kadyrov claimed Medvedev’s rescue was proof of how successful Putin’s “de-Nazification” of Ukraine was.

    “There are no more threats to [Medvedev’s] life. I hope that he will soon be back on his feet,” he said, before adding that “such moments on the battlefield bring us together.”



    https://www.thedailybeast.com/russi...oldier-is-recorded-telling-another?ref=scroll
     
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    #2855     Mar 23, 2022
  6. terr

    terr

    I listened to literally dozens of these intercepted calls. There is no way they are propaganda, they sound way too authentic, with the right terminology, expressions etc. - and yes, the Ukrainians definitely have the means to intercept them due to Russians' complete incompetence. They are real.
     
    #2856     Mar 23, 2022
  7. :rolleyes:

    Here we go. Right on schedule. With Russian soldiers you can set your clock by it.

    Russian troops are using rape as an 'instrument of war' to terrorise Ukrainian families, country's prosecutor-general warns

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...nt-war-countrys-prosecutor-general-warns.html
     
    #2857     Mar 23, 2022
  8. Nobert

    Nobert

     
    #2858     Mar 24, 2022
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    So, risk it all. That's your solution.

    See, my solution is to never put ourselves in a situation like this in the first place. But we lack forethought - as a nation, as a culture.
     
    #2859     Mar 24, 2022
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    #2860     Mar 24, 2022