Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. M.W.

    M.W.

    Then we fundamentally disagree. We should be in pursuit of the truth first and foremost always and everywhere. Not first and foremost life. Even the life of the individual is not worth more than the truth. Because when we water down truth and justify the truth for the preservation of Iives we can as well go packing as humanity. Our current lives reflect this. What's the point of living and trying to survive day by day when those who are supposedly put in power to be our civil servants actually abuse the rules, cheat, lie, apply nepotism, create their own laws and completely pervert the truth? It's turning into a shit life for the grand majority. That is why justicia is blindfolded. To not apply the law depending on the life of the individual but in total and utter pursuit of the truth.

     
    #2651     Mar 22, 2022
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  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I actually agree with almost all of this. I, too, believe that the pursuit of the preservation of life to be one of the highest values to hold. But lies are lies. What if, in an extreme circumstance, a Ukrainian lie caused a neighboring country to respond militarily in a way that deepened the war? They attack Russian citizens/military and the Russians respond to attack their civilians and military. More lives lost, over lies.

    Truth is of paramount importance in all circumstances. Its not like Ukrainian lies only have the potential to hurt their attackers.
     
    #2652     Mar 22, 2022
  3. Arguably that "underling" would be Vladimir Putin who stated in his speech to his nation to explain why he was doing "a special military action" in Ukraine:

    "Your fathers, grandfathers and great-grandfathers did not fight the Nazi occupiers and did not defend our common Motherland to allow today’s neo-Nazis to seize power in Ukraine."
     
    #2653     Mar 22, 2022
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Please tell me more Mr. March join date
     
    #2654     Mar 22, 2022
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    You might want to note that the person you are calling out for having a March join date is responding to someone with a February join date (who you are fine with).

    But you're not one for thinking your way out of a paper bag, so...
     
    #2655     Mar 22, 2022
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  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    This could be China funneling resources by proxy
     
    #2656     Mar 22, 2022
  7. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    You are a troll supreme. Apparently the only skill you have.
     
    #2657     Mar 22, 2022
  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Except we have Putin on tape going full Stalin prior to the invasion and downplaying his own narrative, all of NATO telling UA they're not welcome, and UA basically admitting they won't join NATO. Go sell that garbage on the fox news comment section, you'll have some takers
     
    #2658     Mar 22, 2022
  9. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Where is "C" located?
     
    #2659     Mar 22, 2022
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    So no bet then? I kinda figured you were all talk.

    Have a great day, man.
     
    #2660     Mar 22, 2022