Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. Russians are sending down units from Moscow now.

    Allegedly better trained/more experienced whatever that were heretofored protecting Moscow.

    Plan seems to be now to continue using long range missiles from Russia to hit Ukraine while waiting for the moscow troops to arrive. and then somehow bringing in the artillery that is mired in the convoy and elsewhere to continue turning Ukraine into a moonscape.

    Of course, that is just their plan, allegedly. The Ukranians are also bringing in new "resources." No reason why the general/s from the Moscow units should be denied an opportunity to give their life to the cause of "liberating" Ukraine too.

    I see they bagged another colonel too. Not to take away from the Ukranians but American intelligence is clearly feeding them good info. There are a lot more cia and intelligence units on the ground than being acknowledged and I have no need to know. :cool:

    https://www.newsweek.com/sergei-sukharev-top-russian-commander-killed-ukraine-invasion-1689411
     
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    #2461     Mar 18, 2022
  2. Mercor

    Mercor

    If Russia is firing from Russia then Ukraine should fire at Moscow
     
    #2462     Mar 18, 2022
  3. #2463     Mar 18, 2022
  4. There is merit to that argument.

    That is why Ukraine asserts that the west did the dirty to them when it talked them into giving up their nukes.

    It is not really that simple though. The west/nato others argue that the treaty says that the west is committed to defending Ukraine if someone else uses nukes against them but that they still were responsible for maintaining an adequate military for conventional warfare. They have some merit to their argument though.
     
    #2464     Mar 18, 2022
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #2465     Mar 18, 2022
  6. terr

    terr

    https://sports.yahoo.com/retired-lt-general-russia-may-075849016.html

    “Russia’s decision to transition to a war of attrition, where they’re smashing cities, putting civilians on the road for fear of being murdered, they need three things to do this, and they don’t have those three things,” Hodges said on MSNBC’s “Meet the Press.” “They don’t have the time, they don’t have the manpower and I don’t think they have the ammunition.”
     
    #2466     Mar 18, 2022
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    In other news... Russia announces a job opening for commander of the Kostroma Airborne Regiment
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/feared-russian-paratroop-commander-who-26497768
     
    #2467     Mar 18, 2022
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  8. terr

    terr

    "A former British army special forces officer passing through Kyiv this week offered his analysis: “They’re not looking after their dead, and an army that does that tends to lose.” Morale of the Russian soldiers is low, poor, rotten — pick an adjective. The proof of that is the litter of corpses in Russian uniform after any major battle…"

    That's true. There are thousands of dead Russian soldiers littering Ukrainian roads and fields. Some are picked up by Ukrainians, stacked up, and the Russians are invited to pick them up - they never do. There is no "no man left behind" doctrine in Russian army at all. Great morale booster for Russian soldiers, isn't it?
     
    #2468     Mar 18, 2022
  9. And you have video, some pics of these thousands of dead Russian laying all over the place? I'd like to see them, otherwise I'll hold my position that these numbers are highly exaggerated.
     
    #2469     Mar 18, 2022
  10. Makes it clear too that the body count is a crap shout.

    You see six Russian soldiers dead in the ditch. Maybe no one has counted any of them. Or maybe multiple people have and they have been counted many times over. Who the hell knows? Civilized nations have rules and procedures for ceasefires to return bodies and dogtags and personal effects from fallen soldiers etc. letters they had to parents/wives if killed, etc. But the operative words are "with civilized nations."

    These are Russian soldiers and they have been in combat for a couple weeks now so we are entering the phase where the rape reports will start skyrocketing.
     
    #2470     Mar 18, 2022