Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. Tuxan

    Tuxan



    Nice.
     
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  2. Businessman

    Businessman

  3. smallfil

    smallfil

    More kabuki theater by President Donald Trump. It turns out that Patriot Defense systems takes 2 whole years to make one Patriot Defense system and it costs billions. The missile interceptors, they can make a couple of hundred in any given year at a cost of $4,000,000 each missile interceptor. So, Zelensky got played. He has been playing his silly little games in the peace talks in Turkey. See, the Ukrainians went to 3 peace talks to try and get an agreement but, conceded nothing despite, losing the war? They got a prisoner exchange and 3,000 dead bodies from the Russians. Zelensky even delayed the transfer of the 3,000 dead Ukrainian soldiers returned by the Russians so that, their families can give them a decent burial. Knowing what we know that Patriot defense systems will take 2 years to make one Patriot defense system, Ukraine is going to wait a long time. In the meantime, Russia is destroying Patriot defense systems with their Iskander ballistic missiles when they find them. President Donald Trump asking Zelensky if he can hit Moscow is merely baiting Zelensky the clown, knowing it would stoke his ego. Player got played. President Donald Trump probably, laughing his head off at Zelensky in private.
     
  4. It is going to be a long bloody war with economic chaos thrown in.

    Chances of ending it in 24 hours now are not great.

    Putin played Biden. Then Putin played and is playing Trump.

    And it cannot be won defensively. Ukraine and the Europeans would need to go on offense. Trump's thinking now is that he will try to help defend Ukraine for a few months until a ceasefire can be reached. And that as soon as the sanctions set in Russia will be at the table. I guess the plan is to watch Russia destroy Kiev for the next 40 days.


    They will be at the table. And Trump will give Putin most of what he wants when they get there and turn on Zelensky again because Trump cannot contain Putin so it is easier to get Ukraine to cave or just walk away.

    There is a reason why Trump has always licked Putin's boots. He knows who the grand master is. Putin is playing a lifelong, multi-decade game for his legacy. Xi is as well. Trump works on two-week strategies. Then thinks about what the next transaction should be.

    Trump should have told Putin, that there will be no weapons provided to attack Moscow- as long as Kiev is not attacked from the air. I don't think he thought through what Russia is going to do to Kiev in the next few weeks. He set up a scenario where Putin can both destroy Kiev and also avoid sanctions if he ceasefires before the 50 days. Or maybe he did and he is just helping Vlad. Nothing new there.
     
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  5. smallfil

    smallfil

    Ah, the plot thickens and takes a sudden left turn. France, Italy and Czech Republic have said they will not pay for US weapons for Ukraine? I guess, the European NATO warmongers saw their bill and decided it costs too much for their proxy war? And they have not even fought the Russians yet? So, President Donald Trump in a stroke of genius, made it seem he will send weapons to Ukraine but, subject to NATO paying for it. Now, that they refused, President Donald Trump can put the blame on the European NATO warmongers as not willing to pay to support Ukraine? A stroke of genius. Warmongering clowns Zelensky, Macron, Merz, Starmer tossing in the wind, now trying to figure out how to get weapons without paying for it? Good luck with that. Putin can always fire a couple of more hypersonic ballistic missiles at Lviv to remind the NATO warmongers at the border that, they can be next if they decide to enter Ukraine.