Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. kashirin

    kashirin


    LOOOOOOL

    If Russia wanted they could stop zelensky existence any second,
    why they don't it's a big question, some even say zelensky works for Russia
    I find it hard to believe. But some nazis on this board Trump works for Putin so why not zelensky?

    Still only nazi imbecile would argue Russia tried to harm zelensky even once
     
    #19711     May 30, 2025
  2. themickey

    themickey

    Tru dat, it's the reason imo Zelinsky is pushing shit uphill in this 'Special Operation'.
    Same as Biden works for Trump.
     
    #19712     May 30, 2025
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  3. Not so coincidently, those three countries are all on Vlad's too-be-occupied list. He is afraid that Nato expansion will interfere with his planned expansion.
     
    #19713     May 30, 2025
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  4. ipatent

    ipatent

    He's worried about NATO missiles on his border, decreasing the response time.
     
    #19714     May 30, 2025
  5. Nobert

    Nobert

    No wonder that propaganda corrupts ordinary Russians when it can touch even the brightest.

     
    #19715     May 31, 2025
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  6. There is that, but primarily he is worried about the "an attack on one is an attack on all" clause which interferes with his ability to take countries piecemeal.

    He has already taken a bite out Georgia about 15 years ago, eh? He did not need to worry about a NATO response. Ditto, for Ukraine. He was able to ratchet his way in. He took Crimea without any NATO response, and saw how swimmingly well that worked for him that he returned for the whole enchilada. And again, it did not invoke NATO intervention other than support from across borders. Russia is of course up to its eyeballs in meddling Moldova and had/has them on their occupation list, except that seems to have gone against him a bit of late. The Moldovans- russian dominated infiltrated parts excepted- have soured more on Russia as a result of the Ukraine fiasco.

    Anyway, yes, to your point Vlad does not want NATO on his border. That's why he pretty much fucked up when he threatened Finland to the point where they ended decades of neutrality and joined NATO. That's almost a thousand miles of border right there with Sweden also being in the neighborhood and new to NATO. OOPSY DAISY.

    That being said, I am not in favor of Ukraine being taken into NATO at all for a long time. Even though I would not let the Ruskies dictate what could be possible decades down the road. But Ukraine has massive corruption problems, and also the NATO charter says that countries that are already at war are not eligible which makes a lot of sense to me. Not saying that Europeans or others cannot enter into defense agreements with Ukraine.
     
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    #19716     May 31, 2025
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  7. Nobert

    Nobert






    'Russian bombers are burning en masse' — Ukraine's SBU drones hit 'more than 40' aircraft in mass attack, source claims

    by Chris York June 1, 2025 1:52 PM [​IMG] (Updated: June 1, 2025 4:17 PM) 4 min read
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    A screenshot from a video of the alleged attack released by the SBU on June 1, 2025 (Ukraine's Security Service)
    This audio is created with AI assistance

    Editor's note: This is a breaking story and is being updated.

    An operation by Ukraine's Security Service (SBU) using first-person-view (FPV) drones smuggled deep into Russian and hidden inside trucks has hit 41 Russian heavy bombers at four airfields across the country, a source in the agency told the Kyiv Independent on June 1.

    The operation — codenamed "Web" and a year-and-a-half in the planning — appears to have dealt a major blow to the aircraft Moscow uses to launch long-range missile attacks on Ukraine's cities.

    "The SBU first transported FPV drones to Russia, and later on the territory of the Russian Federation, the drones were hidden under the roofs of mobile wooden cabins, already placed on trucks," the source said.

    "At the right moment, the roofs of the cabins were opened remotely, and the drones flew to hit Russian bombers."

    https://kyivindependent.com/enemy-b...sbu-drones-hit-more-than-40-russian-aircraft/
     
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  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #19718     Jun 1, 2025
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  9. Snuskpelle

    Snuskpelle

    Apparently not that smart to enter the trucks: https://bsky.app/profile/maks23.bsky.social/post/3lqkgmsa4622o

    Visually confirmed losses are 10 aircraft so far, so it might be that the "40" is the number of targets rather than the number hit: https://bsky.app/profile/militarynewsua.bsky.social/post/3lqkg7fpu6c25
     
    #19719     Jun 1, 2025
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  10. Snuskpelle

    Snuskpelle

    #19720     Jun 1, 2025
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