Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. This is warning number eight over the last year, wherein I repeatedly caution that:

    While I concede that Trump is basically in Putin's hip pocket, DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE POSSIBILITY OF TRUMP TURNING ON PUTIN IF PUTIN HUMILATES HIM. TO REPEAT, DO NOT HUMILIATE THE ORANGE MAN. THAT IS RULE NUMBER ONE.

    Putin wants all of Ukraine and beyond unless contained.

    Everyone is emotional, says Kremlin, after Trump calls Putin 'absolutely crazy'

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cvgpj038elyt
     
    #19681     May 26, 2025
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Donald is starting to sound like a spurned homosexual lover. Let's see what he is saying about his buddy Vlad.

    Trump says Putin has gone ‘absolutely crazy,’ warns of downfall of Russia
    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5318407-trump-accuses-putin-russia/

    President Trump in a new post on Truth Social on Sunday night accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of having gone “absolutely” crazy and said if he did not stop what he was doing, it would lead to the downfall of his country.

    The social media comments came after Trump had issued some of his toughest comments about Putin earlier in remarks to reporters in New Jersey.

    “I’ve always had a very good relationship with Vladimir Putin of Russia, but something has happened to him. He has gone absolutely CRAZY!,” Trump wrote.

    “He is needlessly killing a lot of people, and I’m not just talking about soldiers. Missiles and drones are being shot into Cities in Ukraine, for no reason whatsoever,” Trump said.

    “I’ve always said that he wants ALL of Ukraine, not just a piece of it, and maybe that’s proving to be right, but if he does, it will lead to the downfall of Russia!”


    Trump then turned toward Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky, who he has repeatedly criticized. Zelensky on Sunday had faulted the silence of the U.S. and other countries in the wake of the latest missile and drone barrage from Russia against his country, an assault that killed a dozen people.

    “Likewise, President Zelenskyy is doing his Country no favors by talking the way he does,” Trump said.

    “Everything out of his mouth causes problems, I don’t like it, and it better stop.”

    Trump campaigned on a vow to end the war, which he has repeatedly said would never have started if he had been president.

    He returned to that theme at the end of his statement on Truth Social.

    “This is a War that would never have started if I were President. This is Zelenskyy’s, Putin’s, and Biden’s War, not ‘Trump’s,’ I am only helping to put out the big and ugly fires, that have been started through Gross Incompetence and Hatred.”
     
    #19682     May 26, 2025
  3. Nobert

    Nobert

    Keep pounding em boys.

     
    #19683     May 26, 2025
  4. themickey

    themickey

    Germany and Ukraine’s other allies scrap range limits on arms sent to Kyiv
    Removal of restrictions, which is backed by UK, France and US, improves Ukraine’s ability to defend itself against Russia

    Kate Connolly in Berlin Tue 27 May 2025 04.11 AEST

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    The German chancellor has said that Germany, along with Ukraine’s other main western supporters, will remove range restrictions on weapons delivered to Kyiv for the first time, to enable it to defend itself against Russia.

    Friedrich Merz said Germany, Britain, France and the US had lifted the restrictions to enable Ukraine to be better able to hit military targets on Russian territory.

    “There are no longer any range restrictions on weapons delivered to Ukraine – neither by the British, nor by the French, nor by us, nor by the Americans,” he said on Monday, following Russia’s largest drone attack on Ukraine of the war to date.

    “This means that Ukraine can now defend itself, for example, by attacking military positions in Russia … with very few exceptions, it didn’t do that until recently. It can now do that.”

    In response, the Kremlin described the decision as “dangerous”, saying it would be detrimental to reaching any sort of peace agreement. “If these decisions have indeed been made, they are completely at odds with our aspirations for a political settlement,” Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said.
     
    #19684     May 26, 2025
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Trump has tried absolutely nothing and is all out of ideas: Ukraine edition.

    Exasperated Trump signals he's ready to abandon 'day one' promise: analyst
    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-putin-ukraine-2672208198/

    President Donald Trump is signaling he’s close to giving up on broaching a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine — and simply walking away, an analyst wrote Monday.

    The warning comes as multiple cracks appear in the relationship that Trump has repeatedly bragged he has with Russian President Vladimir Putin, wrote Matthew Chance, CNN’s Chief Global Affairs Correspondent.

    His comments came after Trump wrote over the weekend, “I’ve always had a very good relationship with Vladimir Putin of Russia, but something has happened to him.

    But Chance wrote that Putin has remained exactly as he always has been.

    What has changed is Trump’s certainty that he can bring peace to the region.

    “The real question is whether Trump has changed, or at least if his attitude toward Putin has started to shift amid what looks like an increasingly futile US effort to forge peace in Ukraine, something Trump bragged he could do – let’s not forget – in short order," he wrote, referencing the president's promise that he would end the war on his first day in office.

    Chance pointed out it was the sixth time that Trump had publicly shown annoyance with the Russian leader. He called him “absolutely crazy” after renewed attacks on Ukraine in recent days — with the largest ever strikes on Ukraine coming this weekend.

    He’s also expressed exasperation with Putin’s refusal to sign ceasefire deals.

    “More likely, the latest upsurge in violence in Ukraine may further convince an already frustrated US president that he is simply unable to bring the warring parties together any time soon,” wrote Chance.

    “And, amid all his anger and bluster about Putin, Trump may simply choose to walk away.”
     
    #19685     May 26, 2025
  6. kashirin

    kashirin


    Seems like germany really really really wants to become a party in this war and be stricken by russian rockets

    Good thing all europe air defence is destroyed in ukraine so should' be zero problem to destroy waterver russia wants to destroy in germany with zero consequences
     
    #19686     May 26, 2025
  7. ipatent

    ipatent

  8. themickey

    themickey

    A new Stalin sculpture was just unveiled in Moscow. And we’re asking if Putin wants peace?

    By Rob Harris May 27, 2025
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe...ing-if-putin-wants-peace-20250527-p5m2f4.html

    London: Amid the chandeliers and marble grandeur of Moscow’s Taganskaya metro station, a ghost has been raised. His name is Joseph Stalin – immortalised in ceramic relief, flanked by beaming workers and reaching children.
    There’s no plaque for the millions purged, no mention of gulags or forced famines. Just flowers at his feet and passengers lining up for selfies.

    This is a headline in stone: Putin is done whispering his nostalgia for empire. He’s shouting it. And some are still pretending he’s interested in peace?

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    The new Stalin installation, called The Gratitude of the People to Leader-Commander at Taganskaya station in Moscow.Credit: AP

    According to the Wall Street Journal, Donald Trump phoned European leaders last week to inform them “Putin isn’t ready to end the war” — because, astonishingly, “he thinks he’s winning”. The only real question is why it took Trump so long to figure that out.

    As if the bombs on Kyiv, the shattered infrastructure, the mass graves, the deported children hadn’t already spelled it out. As if you needed a two-hour call with “Vladimir” to realise he isn’t exactly reading from the Geneva Convention.

    But Trump wasn’t just late to the party. He has shown up holding a half-baked Vatican peace plan in one hand and his usual grievance-laced barbs for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in the other. In his telling, the Ukrainian president is “doing his country no favours” by daring to criticise the “silence of America” after the deadliest air raids in years. “Everything out of his mouth causes problems, I don’t like it, and it better stop,” Trump said of Zelensky.

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    Rescue workers at the site of a Russian missile attack in Kyiv, Ukraine, on Sunday.Credit: Bloomberg

    But Russia has launched a record 903 drones and 92 missiles against Ukraine since Friday. Twelve killed, dozens injured over one weekend. All while a statue of Stalin just popped up in the middle of Moscow. You don’t do that if you’re trying to build a future. You do that if you’re trying to rewrite the past – and use it to justify a violent present.

    Putin doesn’t want peace. He wants vindication. He wants borders redrawn, power restored, history rewritten – with himself cast as the heir to the iron-fisted glory of the Soviet empire. The Stalin statue isn’t just an art installation; it’s a doctrine in physical form. It says we are not ashamed of who we were – and we will do it again.

    Still, Trump fumbles through his calls, swinging from threats of sanctions one day to warm neutrality the next. He floated sanctions. Then pulled back. He mused that maybe Putin has “gone CRAZY” – but not so crazy that he should face immediate consequences. And always, always, he made it clear: “This isn’t my war.”

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    People at a book festival in St Petersburg walk in front of a poster of Putin on Thursday.Credit: AP

    Putin has no need to make concessions now. Russian forces are still grinding forward, at great cost, but forward nonetheless. His economy is bruised but functional. His people are largely acquiescent. And crucially, Trump’s dithering has signalled that Washington’s appetite to fight this war – even indirectly – may be waning.
    Moscow responded overnight with studied calm – or a performance of it. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov dismissed Trump’s criticism, attributing it to “emotional overload” at a “very crucial moment”.

    “We are really grateful to the Americans and to President Trump personally for their assistance in organising and launching this negotiation process,” he told reporters. His subtext was clear. The war may look like chaos, but for the Kremlin, it’s still on message and still on schedule.

    But it’s not just Ukraine’s war either. It’s Europe’s, and increasingly the world’s. Because a leader who builds a shrine to Stalin in a capital city is not simply honouring history – he’s issuing a warning.
    Trump liked to boast he could end the war in 24 hours. Maybe that’s true. Hand Putin everything he wants, look away from Crimea and Donbas, call the rubble of Kyiv a peace dividend – job done. The war ends. Ukraine’s struggle doesn’t.

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    Trump addresses a Memorial Day Observance at Arlington National Cemetery on Monday.Credit: AP

    Meanwhile, Moscow’s metro glows under Stalin’s resurrected gaze. And the West, again, is caught asking the wrong question.

    It’s not when Putin will be ready for peace. It’s why anyone still thinks he ever was.
     
    #19688     May 27, 2025
    gwb-trading and insider trading like this.
  9. smallfil

    smallfil

    Russia does want the whole of Ukraine. It only wants the regions where ethnic Russians live. Why would they occupy the whole of Ukraine with areas that harbor the Banderistas who were ethnically cleansing the ethnic Russians in Ukraine? That would be a huge headache for Putin. Putin drew a buffer zone to put distance between Ukraine and the Russian border regions. So, he will put up defensive fortifications on the borders of the buzzer zone. This will be the new frontlines or demilitatirized zone. Expect the area to be heavily mined, dragons teeth and Russian artillery and rockets directing fire to defend the new frontlines. Russia might seize Odessa as Zelensky has promised European NATO to allow their warships to dock at Odessa. Putin will not allow that at his backyard. He will turn Ukraine into a landlocked country without access to the seas. Putin is already making plans to end this war militarily. Ukraine peace deal is dead and this war will be decided on the battlefields as Zelensky, Macron, Merz and Starmer wanted. Idiot clowns just made it worst for Ukraine. Any terms will be dictated by Russia alone after this war ends and Russia wins.
     
    #19689     May 27, 2025