Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Rabid Leftist? LOL

    Why don't you get back to urging your fellow vatniks to join Putin's army.
     
    #19331     Mar 21, 2025
  2. kashirin

    kashirin


    So just paid schill as I always told
     
    #19332     Mar 21, 2025
  3. And a Nazi...dont forget to call him a Nazi.
     
    #19333     Mar 21, 2025
  4. Now, they are openly discussing the masterplan. 5 more years of war.

    We are living in The Truman Show. They were able to convince libtards by simply saying "Putin can't win".

    They seem willing to accept the devastating toll on Ukrainian lives, including the risk of ethnic cleansing by Putin, as long as it aligns with their belief that continuing the fight is necessary to prevent Putin from winning.

    None of the liberals here have clarified how many Ukrainian lives they are willing to sacrifice in this conflict, which makes it clear that they are willing to sacrifice 100%.

    https://rmx.news/ukraine/outrage-af...ne-war-should-keep-going-for-another-5-years/

    Outrage after German intelligence chief says Ukraine war should keep going for another 5 years

    "Did someone decide to pay for the exhaustion of Russia in the name of security in Europe with the existence of Ukraine and the lives of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians? I never thought that it would be discussed so officially and openly"


    The Ukraine war has already cost hundreds of thousands of lives, but Germany’s top intelligence chief is predicting far more carnage, and Ukraine’s opposition is reacting with outrage.

    Bruno Kahl, the head of the Federal Intelligence Service (BND) made the comments in an interview, saying: “If a war in Ukraine comes to a standstill earlier than (2029 or 2030), then all the means (of Russia) – both the technical and the material – are able much earlier to provide a threat against Europe.”

    In Ukraine, this portion of the interview has been met with sharp backlash.

    German newspaper Berliner Zeitung now asks: “Will the war be waged on the backs of the Ukraine?” Perhaps a ridiculous question concerning it has already been waged on their backs for the last three years.

    The paper further writes: “In Ukraine, that passage is causing excitement. The reading in Kyiv: The German intelligence chief publicly declares that the Ukraine war should not end before 2029. Otherwise, Russia could use its resources faster to pose a threat to Europe.”

    In other words, a peace deal would not benefit Europe if it happens before the next five years. Instead, the German chief hints that it is in Europe’s interest to continue sending waves of Ukrainian men to die at the front.

    The former prime minister of Ukraine, who still remains one of the most powerful voices in the country, Yulia Tymoshenko, reacted to Kahl’s statements. On her Facebook page, she wrote that “something slipped” out of Kahl’s mouth that Ukrainians “did not want to admit” to themselves.

    “Did someone decide to pay for the exhaustion of Russia in the name of security in Europe with the existence of Ukraine and the lives of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians? I never thought that it would be discussed so officially and openly,” she wrote. She then called for Zelensky to immediately end the war and sign a peace agreement.

    As chairman of the opposition Fatherland Association, Tymoshenko complained that even the closest allies of Ukraine primarily pursue their own interests. She is calling on the Ukrainian parliament to address Kahl’s statement.

    Oleksij Hontscharenko, from the European Solidarity Group, also made a similar statement on Telegram: “Not in five or ten years. Let’s end it. To rebuild the economy and expand the army. It is important to preserve our country now, We don’t have to save anyone. We have to save ourselves.”

    Ukrainian political scientist Anatoliy Oktysjuk said that Kahl’s statements only confirm what he has been saying for some time. “Of course, peace negotiations and an end to our war are unfavorable for Europe. Should the Ukrainians struggle as long as possible so that it remains calm in Europe?”

    On social media, Oktysjuk wrote that Kahl is only now honestly admitting what Oktysjuk had been talking about for the past two years.

    There is growing unease in Ukraine about the humanitarian toll the war is taking on the Ukrainian population, which is seeing the worst demographic development in the entire world due to its high death rate, low birth rate, and a huge wave of emigration. In short, Ukrainians are increasingly fighting for a land that may not exist when the war is over. Already there are calls from business leaders in Ukraine to import Third World migrants to replace the men who have been lost.

    Tymoshenko has become more outspoken in the media in recent months and has taken to sniping at Zelensky. Zelensky, however, has nothing to fear, as elections have been suspended in Ukraine as long as the war continues.
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2025
    #19334     Mar 22, 2025
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Russia -- which is the aggressor -- can give up the war in Ukraine and retreat anytime they want.

    If Europe allows Putin to devour Ukraine then they know they are next. It is better to fight the war against Russia in Ukraine then on the soil of NATO countries. If the war in Ukraine drains Russia to the point where Putin has no capability to attack Europe thus creating WW3 -- then all the better.
     
    #19335     Mar 22, 2025
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  6. ipatent

    ipatent

    No, they won't be next. Ukraine is a unique case.
     
    #19336     Mar 22, 2025
  7. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    Women don't fare well against Putin, Tymoshenko's ideas are too idealistic, with Putin you need immense strategic leverage or he will back you into a dressing room, and grab your pussy.

    Unless she can say possibly, get Russian mothers to revolt, something that worked with the Kursk submarine disaster in 2000, on a very small scale, she is wasting her breath.

    Saying five years more is mostly to demoralize Russia, not the goal. But they need to step up and make Putin desperate to train his army on things like Siberian and
    Kaliningrad independence. China has already taken some disputed border nibbles Russians want kept quiet.

    The West needs to think beyond just military aid and start playing the geopolitical chessboard harder.
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2025
    #19337     Mar 22, 2025
  8. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    There is a lot of normality in Ukraine. These are quite new.



    Awful soundtrack stops after the beginning.

     
    #19338     Mar 22, 2025
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  9. kashirin

    kashirin

    ukrainian schills on payroll will repeat their stupid script again and again
     
    #19339     Mar 22, 2025
  10. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    Dude, autism spectrum is what a lot of this site displays, not paid. You yourself have a lot of explaining to do about your hyper-focus on this topic.
     
    #19340     Mar 22, 2025
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