Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. Good1

    Good1

    This is a good example of the rhetorical smear campaign that's been getting hot for a decade, but had been brewing ever since the cold war.

    US/NATO does not have as clean of hands as you think through all of this. It was involved in a coup in Ukraine in 2014...the first step toward turning Ukraine into a forward base.

    Since then, the US were arming Ukraine toward a day when, fully armed, Ukraine would be declared a member of NATO.

    Armament>>NATO. In that order.

    Basically a slow motion sneak attack. Like the slow motion sneak attack out of Gaza, which armed itself for a decade prior.

    Arguably, the US was also involved with the decade long armament and sneak attack coming out of Gaza. The US has been funding Egypt, which was smuggling arms into Gaza through a number of tunnels that any US intelligence agent would have known about. And for a long time (except the Trump years) has been funding both Hamas (in Gaza) and Fatah (the PA in Judea/Samaria)



    Putins seizure of Crimea (yet another Russian heritage region)... maybe you think that is one of his crimes? It was a response to the coup in 2014, to make sure Russia would keep a navy base on the Black Sea...as Ukraine would be used as a forward base.
     
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    #17341     Aug 19, 2024
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  2. Nobert

    Nobert

    Based on that logic
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    #17342     Aug 20, 2024
  3. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    use your brain.
     
    #17343     Aug 20, 2024
  4. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    "russia" - the prison of nations.
     
    #17344     Aug 20, 2024
  5. Good1

    Good1

    The prison of nations is now offering safe haven for people trying to escape from western liberal ideals.

     
    #17345     Aug 20, 2024
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  6. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    yes - great

    please go there - find your personal paradise - and enjoy the rest of your life with everything fascism has to offer.

    good riddance.
     
    #17346     Aug 20, 2024
  7. Good1

    Good1

    Hmmm. You think I should go where Edward Snowden went to escape from western ideals? Tempting indeed.
     
    #17347     Aug 20, 2024
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  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #17348     Aug 20, 2024
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yes, you should join Edward Snowden in becoming a naturalized Russian citizen -- if you don't agree with western ideals such as democracy, freedom and capitalism. Russia is the perfect haven for those who hate western ideals; it offers an autocratic dictatorship, crony capitalism based on theft, and a completely oppressed society & media.
     
    #17349     Aug 20, 2024
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  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

     
    #17350     Aug 20, 2024
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