Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. UsualName

    UsualName

    #1671     Mar 3, 2022
  2. UsualName

    UsualName

    So you’re saying Zelensky, the guy Trump tried to extort, would rather have Trump as President?

    Come on. You can’t be this dense.

    I get in your mind “Trump being Trump” means something but not in the real world. Trump being Trump would not have helped Ukraine. Ukraine probably would not have been able to put up as much of a defense considering he called Putin a genius for his invasion plan and his history of holding aid to Ukraine. So I guess in his sort of way he would have avoided a drawn out war because he would have folded up like cheap suit for Putin.
     
    #1672     Mar 3, 2022
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  3. Yes and it is important too to maintain the message to Europe that if you are not a member of Nato, well, errr....ahhh. you are not a member of Nato. There is a part of me that likes the idea that some of them want to get on board now but I don't want them to be like some government subsidized health insurance plan where you can do nothing for decades but suddenly enroll when you have been diagnosed with cancer. Get on board, pay your damn fair share, and make it work in good times and bad. Otherwise we may or may not be there for you when we get spread thin- our choice, not yours.
     
    #1673     Mar 3, 2022
  4. I am shocked.

    Next thing you know. American intelligence will be sharing intelligence with the Americans. You know the military was the last to know that the Taliban were gaining strength in the Kabul even though everyone else had been following it on TV for weeks.
     
    #1674     Mar 3, 2022
  5. I was just going to justbrush you off and watch you flail here trying to put some lipstick on another Biden disaster.

    But since you bring it up, yes, I do think Zelensky would prefer to have Trump right now, and so would Ukrainians.

    Zelensky and Trump both got caught up in the dems impeachment scam and the dems tried to draw both of them far further than they wanted to go. If Trump had been re-elected they both would have moved far beyond that by now and both be focused on what is right for their countries.

    So the answer to your question above is a resounding, emphatic. Yes.
     
    #1675     Mar 3, 2022
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

     
    #1676     Mar 3, 2022
  7. UsualName

    UsualName

    You’re koo koo for Cocoa Puffs. Absolutely nuts. Trump was focused on appeasing Russia 24/7.
     
    #1677     Mar 3, 2022
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  8. Crimea and Ukraine. Two big gifts from dems to Putin.

    We know who Putin's bitches are. And it is not Trump.

    Try thinking like an American rather than democrat.
     
    #1678     Mar 3, 2022
  9. UsualName

    UsualName

    Except for the fact that we are imposing the harshest sanctions on Russia ever while trump removed sanctions from Russia.

    Like I said there is zero in the historical record of Trump opposing Russia and plenty in the record of Trump opposing Ukraine and NATO.

    All you have is a mythology of Trump. Nearly every action and statement by Trump and his administration opposes what you are claiming. Ask Rex Tillerson. And if anyone is Russia’s “bitch” it’s Mike Pompeo.

    If you are proving anything it is that the democrats have demonstrated more consistent and harsher opposition to Russia.
     
    #1679     Mar 3, 2022
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  10. Correct. Biden trying to impose punishing sanctions on Russia because they just took Ukraine.

    Trump did not let them take Ukraine and did not impose punishing sanctions on them for not taking Ukraine.

    Maybe someone else here can explain to you how that works. I am not up for trying to fix stupid right at this time.
     
    #1680     Mar 3, 2022
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