Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. Arnie

    Arnie

    In case you're wondering, kashirin is the one in black...
     
    #16591     Jun 5, 2024
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  2. Nobert

    Nobert



    coming next from russia , -

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    #16592     Jun 5, 2024
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  3. Atlantic

    Atlantic


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    LGBT.... ?
     
    #16593     Jun 5, 2024
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Money for Ukraine to be re-paid by frozen Russian funds.

    US seeks EU sanctions guarantee to back $50bn Ukraine loan
    Washington needs Russian assets held in Europe to be frozen indefinitely to support fresh finance for Kyiv
    https://archive.ph/hIqWv#selection-1583.0-1589.109
     
    #16594     Jun 5, 2024
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  5. kashirin

    kashirin

    Imagine Houthis also don't have a fleet. They don't even have electricity. They still damage aircraft carrier
    And they basically halted traffic in red sea
    US military is an absolute embarrassment
     
    #16595     Jun 5, 2024
  6. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    they did not damage aircraft carrier as it was pointed out. And yes with Iran rockets they indeed caused Red Sea issues.

    you mentioned might of Russian navy. I showed you example that Russian navy is super weak and will be totally wiped out if a fight with US will commence.
     
    #16596     Jun 5, 2024
  7. Businessman

    Businessman


     
    #16597     Jun 5, 2024
  8. kashirin

    kashirin

    Pointed out by who?
    Paid Ukrainian troll gwb trader who's tracking record 100% fakes?

    Only that is enough to understand aircraft carrier was badly damaged
     
    #16598     Jun 5, 2024
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Watching the maritime traffic monitor for the Red Sea right now... plenty of traffic moving over the past week. Nothing is shut down.

    And once again... the Houthis did not hit an aircraft carrier or any naval vessel with Iranian missiles or drones. These claims -- as noted earlier -- are laughable.

    Let's get back to the proper context of this thread -- which is the continual failures of Russia in Ukraine.

    Russians Bemoan 'Superior' Ukrainian Drone, EW Capabilities
    https://www.newsweek.com/russians-superior-ukrainian-drone-ew-isw-1908348
     
    #16599     Jun 5, 2024
  10. themickey

    themickey

    Ukrainians with Dual Citizenship Banned from Leaving Ukraine – What We Know
    It’s been announced that Ukraine would now prevent men with dual citizenship from leaving the country, but the situation is more nuanced, according to Ukraine’s Border Guard.

    by Kyiv Post | June 5, 2024
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/33834

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    Ukrainian and American passports. Photo: Kyiv Post

    On Wednesday, June 4, the US Embassy in Ukraine published an update that from June 1 “US-Ukrainian dual citizens, including those who live in the US, may no longer be able to depart the country.”

    However, the latest changes technically only apply to Ukrainians with permanent residence abroad, according to the Ukrainian State Border Service.

    Who cannot leave the country?
    Males aged 18-60 who are Ukrainian citizens – meaning those with a passport issued by Ukraine – would not be able to leave the country even if they have a different citizenship or permanent residence abroad.

    What’s the difference between citizenship and permanent residence?
    Citizenship normally refers to those who possess a passport of a country (with some extraordinary exceptions) who enjoy all the rights and obligations of being a citizen, and permanent residence refers to those with a right to live in a country with some restrictions to their civil rights, such as voting.

    Ukraine does not recognize dual citizenship, as stated in the US Embassy announcement and by Ukrainian Border Guard spokesman Andriy Demchenko. Therefore, Ukrainian citizens with Ukrainian passports will be considered Ukrainian by the State Border Service regardless.

    What exactly changed then?
    Previously, Ukrainians with permanent residence abroad could leave the country if they deregistered their place of residence in Ukraine and registered their place of residence abroad. This is no longer the case.

    Deliveries from Poland, Canada, and Finland are no longer subject to conditions, and last week, the US lifted its ban on the use of US weapons to attack targets on Russian territory.
    “Under martial law, Ukrainian citizens who permanently resided outside Ukraine ... could travel outside Ukraine. This possibility is now limited for them,” said Demchenko, citing changes in legislation linked to military service, as reported by AFP.

    Demchenko told Interfax Ukraine that those with dual citizenship – if one of the passports is Ukrainian – would be considered Ukrainian regardless and cannot leave the country since martial law was introduced.

    “And, for example, at the border, border guards have repeatedly found citizens of our country who, at passport control, pretended to be foreigners. Such citizens are always brought to the responsibility defined by the law,” said Demchenko.

    Potential issues with the latest update
    There are still unanswered questions as to who might encounter issues while leaving Ukraine.

    While Ukraine technically prohibits dual citizenship, requiring citizens to renounce their Ukrainian citizenship while acquiring foreign citizenship and vice versa, a number of people still have both Ukrainian and foreign passports under various circumstances.

    Assuming a person possesses a different passport and uses that passport – without producing a Ukrainian passport – while entering and leaving Ukraine, questions arose as to how the State Border Service could identify that person as a Ukrainian citizen, since it’s not common to deploy fingerprint checks on the border at present.

    Moreover, the US Embassy’s announcement also cautioned those with “a claim to Ukrainian citizenship” that they might encounter issues while exiting Ukraine.

    That would apply to hundreds, if not thousands of foreign citizens with Ukrainian heritage visiting the country since all of them would technically have a claim to Ukrainian citizenship.

    Though officially, the Ukrainian side has yet to mention exit restrictions on those with claims to Ukrainian citizenship, it is a matter that warrants clarification.
     
    #16600     Jun 5, 2024