Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. themickey

    themickey

    Dream on!
    Western technology is years ahead of Russian or Iran.
    Or put it this way, Western technology has a greater base of engineers than Russia. Russia is being starved, however China may likely step into the breach.
     
    #16091     May 11, 2024
  2. Businessman

    Businessman

    All true, sadly Ukraine doesn't have enough men to win the war.
     
    #16092     May 11, 2024
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  3. themickey

    themickey

    The West's biggest shortcoming is Biden, that guy has no masculine backbone.
    He prefers sniffing female hair and killing Arab civilians.
     
    #16093     May 11, 2024
  4. Businessman

    Businessman

    Not just years, US tech is decades ahead of Russians. Like 30 years ahead.

    But it seems much of the stuff the US sends over is hobbled

    "Fearing Russian capture, US strips sensitive tech from M1 Abrams tanks headed for Ukraine"

    And F16s are ancient 1970s technology.

    F22 and F35s stealth fighters would strike fear into the Russians, but old F16s will be much more easily taken out by Russian air defence.

    Russia is no match for NATO, Putin knows that, a conventional war with NATO is not part of his war gaming, which is why he warns of tactical nukes.

    If Nato sends troops go into Ukraine, the US would have to move to DEFCON-2, and everyone will start shitting themselves back in the US.
     
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    #16094     May 11, 2024
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  5. kashirin

    kashirin

    Never knew there are black Russians
     
    #16095     May 11, 2024
  6. kashirin

    kashirin

    I would not be so sure. Ukraine is the best NATO got because Ukrainians are just brainwashed Russians.
    Any other troops are deeply inferior to what Ukraine got.
    Weapons stocks are depleted, logistics is difficult, China, Iran and NK good allies which will support as that's what everyone outside NATO wants - to finish NATO

    I don't see any scenario where NATO wins conventional war contained within Ukraine borders. And NATO will never strike Russia directly because it will be the end
     
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    #16096     May 11, 2024
  7. kashirin

    kashirin


    Common at what US is exactly ahead?
    Patriot systems are inferior to S400
    Usa does not have hypersonic rockets
    All high tech usa has is redundant,
    Planes were never in real fight
    How do they even going to strike? From where?
    All air carriers are sitting ducks could be easily destroyed with a swarm of drones
    I don't even talk about kinzhals which can destroy all us fleet in a day with all its planes

    USA provided all it has except planes which Ukraine likely would lose in days and Ukraine had best soldiers and they still lost
     
    #16097     May 11, 2024
  8. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    "russia" has actually lost this war - long ago.

    like it has lost almost every war it ever started.


    "russia" - in its current form - has no right to exist.

    "russia" will die.
     
    #16098     May 11, 2024
  9. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    Russia lost this war when their 3 day SVO failed. If Putin was a real fearless leader, he could still win it but he is coward. Full mobilization of Russian society akin what Stalin did during WW2 would allow Russia to win, albeit with huge human casualties. But Putin is a weak coward, so the war is already lost.
     
    #16099     May 11, 2024
  10. themickey

    themickey

    So if Putin is a coward what does that make Biden?
    Biden arms bully Israel to the teeth who kill civilians (35,000 and counting) and with underdog Ukraine attempting at shooting enemy soldiers, he withholds aircraft and missiles and artillary ammunition.
     
    #16100     May 11, 2024