Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    That’s a laughable take. Are you drunk on vodka again?
     
    #15341     Mar 2, 2024
  2. Atlantic

    Atlantic

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    #15342     Mar 3, 2024
  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    rest in pieces. I hear Brandon can release thousands of Bradleys meant for the scrap heap w/the stroke if a pen once approved

     
    #15343     Mar 3, 2024
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  4. Hey, people who said Russia invaded Ukraine unprovoked.
    NYT has now shown you to be

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    #15344     Mar 3, 2024
  5. Oh pooh. No news here.

    Ukraine has been fighting Russia in the Donbass for over a decade because Russia had encroached on to Ukrainian territory and taken Crimea as well.

    There has never been any question that the CIA and the Americans supported Ukraine in their defense there. That does not however support the Kremlin argument that Ukraine or the CIA was trying to invade or take parts of Russia.

    And let us not forget that it was not/is not a conspiracy theory that Russia was actually taking turf, not Ukraine or the CIA. Refer to the Donbass and Crimea for more on this. If anything the west demonstrated that it would do absolutely nothing if Russia advanced. Which of course only encouraged Putin to take more. Rinse and repeat. It will continue until someone puts a HIMAR up Vlad's arse.
     
    #15345     Mar 3, 2024
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  6. Nobert

    Nobert

    One of the ways to spend frozen Russias $300B

     
    #15346     Mar 4, 2024
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The U.S. CIA has quite rightfully aided Ukraine since the time when Russia illegally seized Crimea. It was obvious that Russia did not plan to stop with Crimea.

    Should we seize every country which Russian intelligence agencies provided assistance to? Do we have grounds to seize these countries because Russia providing assistance to them is a provocation? You should really take an assessment of what your reasoning leads to.
     
    #15347     Mar 4, 2024
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    "Advanced" Russian tanks don't work worth shit and won't have a role in illegally seizing the sovereign nation of Ukraine.

    Let's catch up with the latest laughable claims by the Russians.


    Senior Russian official says Russia will not use "state-of-the-art" Armata tanks in Ukraine due to their high price
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/senior-russian-official-says-russia-124416469.html

    Sergei Chemezov, CEO of Russian state-owned defence company Rostec, has claimed that "the state-of-the-art" T-14 Armata main battle tanks (MBTs), which Russia showcased in 2015, will not be used in the war against Ukraine, supposedly on account of their high price, although he argues that they are in service with the Russian Armed Forces.

    Source: Latvia-based Russian media outlet Meduza; Kremlin-aligned Russian news agency RIA Novosti

    Quote from Chemezov: "Armata is, in fact, a bit costly. It is undoubtedly superior to existing tanks in terms of functionality, yet its sky-high cost means the army is unlikely to use it now. It's easier for them to get the T-90s."

    Details: Chemezov claimed that it makes sense for Russia to invest in cheaper weapons. "We currently need funds to develop new tanks, new weapons, perhaps cheaper ones. Therefore, if it is possible to acquire cheaper weapons, why not," Chemezov added.

    Background:
    • In September 2015, Russian propagandists posted a video of a crew member of the new T-14 Armata MBT in action. A single shot was fired, and the shell supposedly hit the target. However, neither the firing conditions nor the distance to the target were disclosed.
    • Before that, the Armata malfunctioned during a rehearsal for the Victory Day parade in Moscow on 7 May. During the parade rehearsal, the announcer claimed that the tank's stoppage had been planned to display "how the evacuation of military equipment will be carried out".
    • In January 2023, UK intelligence reported that a small batch of Armata tanks had been prepared for deployment to the front, but the Russians hesitated to use them amid concerns about their technical condition.
     
    #15348     Mar 4, 2024
  9. kashirin

    kashirin

    What do you mean illegally seized Crimea?
    It's like saying Iraq illegally seized Fallujah from ISIS

    How can you illegally seized something from terrorists?
     
    #15349     Mar 5, 2024
  10. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/05/europe/russian-warship-destroyed-ukraine-intl-hnk-ml/index.html

    Ukraine’s drones sink another Russian warship, Kyiv says

    By Svitlana Vlasova and Brad Lendon, CNN
    2 minute read
    Updated 6:10 AM EST, Tue March 5, 2024


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    Ukrainian defense intelligence videograb shows the Russian patrol ship that was hit in the Black Sea.
    Defense Intelligence of Ukraine

    CNN —
    Ukraine’s military on Tuesday claimed another successful attack on a Russian warship, marking the latest in a string of naval defeats for Moscow’s Black Sea Fleet that Kyiv says has reduced its numbers by more than a third since the start of the war.

    The Defense Intelligence of Ukraine said maritime drones operated by its Group 13 special unit struck and sank the 1,300-ton Russian patrol ship Sergei Kotov in the Black Sea, near the Kerch Strait that separates occupied Crimea from the coast of southwest Russia.

    “As a result of the strike by Magura V5 maritime drones, the Russian ship Project 22160 ‘Sergei Kotov’ sustained damage to the stern, starboard and port sides,” sparking a fire aboard the vessel, a statement said. The military later confirmed the ship had sunk.

    The mission was conducted in cooperation with the Ukrainian Navy and with the support of Ukraine’s Ministry of Digital Transformation, it added.

    Andriy Yusov, representative of the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine, said in an interview with Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty that the Sergei Kotov had been targeted and hit before, but “this time the Sergei Kotov has been destroyed for sure.”

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    A fire on board the 1,300-ton Russian patrol ship Sergei Kotov is pictured in video released by Ukrainian defense intelligence.
    Defense Intelligence of Ukraine

    Ukraine’s maritime drones have taken a heavy toll on Russian naval ships, especially in the past few months, with its campaign in the Black Sea a rare strategic success for Kyiv compared to recent setbacks on the battlefield.

    In mid-February, the Russian landing ship Caesar Kunikov was attacked with the same drones used against the Sergei Kotov. The drones punctured “critical holes” on the Russian ship’s left side before sinking it, Ukrainian military intelligence agency said on Telegram.

    Earlier in February, Ukraine claimed its forces had disabled about 33% of Russia’s warships, amounting to 24 disabled ships and one submarine. Russia’s worst naval loss of the war was the sinking of the guided-missile cruiser Moskva in April 2022.

    The Sergei Kotov was one of Russia newest ships in the Black Sea Fleet. A report from Russian state-run news agency TASS on January 21, 2021, said the ship was floated on that day and would soon join the Black Sea Fleet.

    The TASS report said the 300-foot-long (91 meters) warship had a range of 6,000 nauticial miles, could carry a crew of 80 and was equipped with a helicopter, a 57mm gun and a modern air defense system. Ukraine said it had a price tag of $65 million.
     
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    #15350     Mar 5, 2024