Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    #14682     Nov 21, 2023
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    Could be something more complicated like that, or he could simply be right.
    I mean, week after week, month after month, now nearly years on and "Ukraine is winning!!!"
     
    #14683     Nov 22, 2023
  4. themickey

    themickey

    No, it's USA winning.
    I always thought, the best scenario was to grind Russia down slowly which is exactly what's happening.
    By slowly turning over Russia on a slow cooking spit, you get to find out their strength and weaknesses, besides, USA & Europe are largely out of harms way, spending money, testing weapons, selling munitions and not getting killed while attempting to avert nuclear war.
     
    #14684     Nov 22, 2023
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  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    If that were the case, it'd be the Ukrainians calling for a truce, not us attempting to twist their arm into a truce by ceding territory. As long as Ukraine is no longer losing territory, that's a win IMO, and the fact is they keep gaining back.

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    #14685     Nov 22, 2023
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Putin is desperately looking for a way to exit Ukraine without looking like he is surrendering. Of course, Ukraine is not willing to surrender an inch of their territory to a violent dictator.

    BREAKING NEWS: Russia's Putin says mulling how to end tragedy of Ukraine conflict
    https://english.kyodonews.net/news/...g-how-to-end-tragedy-of-ukraine-conflict.html

    Putin says we must think how to stop 'the tragedy' of war in Ukraine
    https://ground.news/article/breakin...ulling-how-to-end-tragedy-of-ukraine-conflict

    Putin says we must think how to stop ‘the tragedy’ of war in Ukraine
    https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/putin-we-must-think-how-to-stop-the-tragedy-in-ukraine

    Russia-Ukraine war - live: Putin calls conflict a tragedy despite invading and claims he’s open to peace talks
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-latest-putin-losses-b2451545.html
     
    #14686     Nov 22, 2023
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  7. Ricter

    Ricter

    It appears Ukraine is going to run out of grinding material first.
     
    #14687     Nov 22, 2023
  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    Okay, that's kind of what the author is saying.
     
    #14688     Nov 22, 2023
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    *that's winning IMO.
     
    #14689     Nov 22, 2023
  10. Russians are feeling it pretty hard these days.

    And yes, Vatniks, the Ukrainians are too.

    But the Russian soldiers know that the war is optional for Russia. They could go home. The Ukrainians do not have that option. The Ruskies would just come and take their land and their people and rape their dog.

    The fellow in this video will be dead before long, if not already.

    No shame in surrendering when your officers and command have abandoned you.

    Dmitri on X: "Unfortunate situation for the Russian marines in Krynky. https://t.co/Tq0xgvXLUB" / X (twitter.com)
     
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    #14690     Nov 22, 2023
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