Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #14201     Sep 25, 2023
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  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Republicans Claim Putin’s Army 50% Destroyed, “We Get A Lot” For Our Money
    https://2paragraphs.com/2023/09/rep...army-50-destroyed-we-get-a-lot-for-our-money/

    Even among Congress members that ostensibly back the United States’ support of Ukraine in its war against Russia, there are questions about how American defense funds supplied to Ukraine are being spent. Even the most anti-Putin Russia hawks like Sen. Lindsey Graham are having to answer accountability questions as the bills get higher and MAGA adherents like Marjorie Taylor Greene want to block all aid.

    The questioning of Ukraine support from within the American ranks is exactly what Russia is bargaining for — and trying to foment through online disinformation operations — with the goal that waning support from a politically fractured U.S. will hobble Ukraine’s so-far valiant defenses.

    [Note: The U.S. has approved four rounds of aid to Ukraine in response to Russia’s invasion so far, totaling about $113 billion. President Biden is seeking an additional $24 billion in security and humanitarian aid for Ukraine.]

    Now a Republican-led group supporting Ukrainian defense has created an ad running this weekend which presents a compelling broad-stroke answer to the nagging questions about how the funds are being used, tracked and monitored in Ukraine.

    Foregoing specific details, the ‘Republicans For Ukraine’ present a very simple (and favorable) equation: The U.S., it says, has allocated a mere 5% of its defense budget for Ukraine — and with that (and support from other Western allies) Ukraine has managed to destroy 50% of Russia’s army.



    “We’ve done all this by sending weapons from storage,” the voiceover claims. In Ukraine, the ad says, the United States gets “a lot for a little.”

    Those who remain opposed to the U.S. support often object, as the commenter below illustrates, on the grounds that the U.S. is doing the lion’s share of the heavy financial lifting in Ukraine while other Western democracies are contributing incommensurately.

    The Republicans for Ukraine group believes that faltering in the Ukraine-Russia war now — even if it means paying this cost upfront — would ultimately be far more expensive to the U.S., in that a Ukraine loss would dramatically shift the global power structure and further endanger Europe and the West.

    The GOP Ukraine supporters describe the mission simply: “We are amplifying the voices of Republicans who believe that the United States should be a steadfast friend to democracies like Ukraine and a fearsome enemy to aggressive dictatorships like Russia.”
     
    #14202     Sep 25, 2023
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  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Imagine that... despite all the claims from the MAGA crowd... the spending, equipment and weapons in Ukraine sent from the U.S. are being carefully tracked.

    How U.S. tax dollars are being spent, tracked in Ukraine | 60 Minute
     
    #14203     Sep 25, 2023
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  4. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    :thumbsup:

    time to take another 5% and finish the job.

    :D
     
    #14204     Sep 25, 2023
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #14205     Sep 25, 2023
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

     
    #14206     Sep 25, 2023
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

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    #14207     Sep 25, 2023
  8. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    The best national defense spending The US has ever spent.
     
    #14208     Sep 25, 2023
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    Tsing Tao

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    #14209     Sep 25, 2023
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  10. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Yup, let's fight some more proxy wars against the Rooskies (with China, NK, Iran, South Africa helping them no less), push them back to Siberia. A Gulag is waiting for PooPoo if he lives
     
    #14210     Sep 25, 2023