Russia & Ukraine

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  1. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Uhhh just a scratch - no biggie ;):-

    Ukraine again reported bringing war deep into Russia with attacks on Moscow and border region
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    APTOPIX Russia Ukraine Drone Attack
    Investigators examine a damaged skyscraper in the "Moscow City" business district after a reported drone attack in Moscow, Russia, early Sunday, July 30, 2023. (AP Photo)
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    The Associated Press
    Updated Sun, July 30, 2023 at 2:08 PM EDT·4 min read


    Ukraine brought the war far from the front line into the heart of Russia again Sunday in drone penetrations that Russian authorities said damaged two office buildings a few miles (kilometers) from the Kremlin and a pig breeding complex on the countries' border.

    The attacks, which Ukraine didn't acknowledge in keeping with its security policy, reflected a pattern of more frequent and deeper cross-border strikes the Kyiv government has launched since starting a counteroffensive against Russian forces in June. A precursor and the most dramatic of the strikes happenned in May on the Kremlin itself, the seat of power in the capital, Moscow.

    Sunday's was the fourth such strike on the capital region this month and the third this week, showing Moscow’s vulnerability as Russia's war in Ukraine drags into its 18th month.

    The Russian Defense Ministry said three drones targeted the city in an “attempted terrorist attack by the Kyiv regime.” Air defenses shot down one drone in Odintsovo in the surrounding Moscow region, while two others were jammed and crashed into the Moscow City business district.

    Photos and video showed that a drone had ripped off part of the facade of a modern skyscraper, IQ-Quarter, located 7.2 kms (4.5 miles) from the Kremlin. When the drone hit, sparks, flames and smoke spewed from the building, with debris falling on the sidewalk and street. Windows were blown out, and metal window frames were mangled. A security guard was injured, Russia's state news agency Tass reported, citing emergency officials. Russia's Ria-Novosti news agency reported the building's tenants included several government agencies.

    Flights were temporarily suspended at Moscow's Vnukovo airport, and the airspace over Moscow and the outlying regions was temporarily closed.

    President Vladimir Putin, who was in his hometown of St. Petersburg at the time of the attempted attacks for meetings with African leaders and a naval celebration, was briefed, his spokesman said.

    Ukrainian officials didn’t acknowledge the attacks but President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said in his nightly video address: “Gradually, the war is returning to the territory of Russia — to its symbolic centers and military bases, and this is an inevitable, natural and absolutely fair process.”

    A Ukrainian air force spokesman also didn't claim responsibility but said the Russian people were seeing the consequences of Russia's war in Ukraine.

    “All of the people who think the war ‘doesn’t concern them' — it’s already touching them,” spokesperson Yurii Ihnat told journalists Sunday.

    “There’s already a certain mood in Russia: that something is flying in, and loudly,” he said. “There's no discussion of peace or calm in the Russian interior any more. They got what they wanted.”

    Ihnat also referenced an early Sunday drone attack on Crimea, Ukrainian territory which Russia occupied and illegally annexed in 2014. The Russian Defense Ministry announced it had shot down 16 Ukrainian drones and neutralized eight others through electronic jamming. No casualties were reported.

    Zelenskyy has vowed to take back all land Russian forces have occupied, including Crimea, and his efforts have been strengthened by the receipt and deployment of increasingly advanced Western weapons.

    In the earlier attacks on Moscow, Russia's Defense Ministry reported shooting down a Ukrainian drone outside the city on Friday. Four days earlier, two drones struck the Russian capital, one of them falling in the center of the city near the Defense Ministry’s headquarters along the Moscow River about 3 kilometers (2 miles) from the Kremlin. The other drone hit an office building in southern Moscow, gutting several upper floors.

    In another attack on July 4, the Russian military said air defenses downed four drones on Moscow's outskirts and jammed a fifth that was forced down.

    Russia has also blamed Ukrainian forces for attacking border areas, and on Sunday, the governor of one such region, Bryansk, said a Ukrainian strike damaged a pig breeding complex and injured three people.

    In Ukraine, the air force reported Sunday it had destroyed four Russian drones above the Kherson and Dnipropetrovsk regions. Information on the attacks could not be independently verified.

    Meanwhile, a Russian missile strike late Saturday killed two people and wounded 20 in the city of Sumy in northeast Ukraine. A four-story vocational college building was hit, the Ukrainian Interior Ministry said. Local authorities said that dormitories and teaching buildings were damaged in the blast and a fire that followed.

    While the attacks continued on the war front, so did the war of words. Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy secretary of Russia’s Security Council, issued his latest nuclear war threat in a Telegram post Sunday. In it, he claimed Russian forces were preventing a nuclear war. He contended that if Ukraine, with NATO countries' support, succeeded in its counteroffensive, including if “they seized part of our land,” then Russia would “go for the use of nuclear weapons.” Western leaders have repeatedly warned of the dangers of making such statements.

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    Associated Press writer Andrew Katell in New York contributed to this report.

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    Follow AP’s coverage of the war in Ukraine: https://apnews.com/hub/russia-ukraine
     
    #13401     Jul 30, 2023
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  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The best thing for Putin and his vatniks to do today is to bend over and kiss their asses goodbye. The end is approaching.

    Ukraine set to enter Crimea ‘soon’ after stealing North Korean rockets
    https://nypost.com/2023/07/29/ukrai...-after-stealing-north-korean-rockets-reports/
     
    #13402     Jul 30, 2023
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    gwb-trading

    #13403     Jul 30, 2023
  4. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Russia can't use their nukes, even tactical as this would pitch NATO into a direct conflict and Russia can't survive that. Maybe NATO can't either but Russia is toast then simply by conventional military. It's lose-lose for them.

    They occupied the nuclear power plants in part to try and slow Ukraine building nukes which it is more than capable of doing having been home to much of the arsenal in Soviet times.

    But it's been a while now and one thing in war, if there is something they can do the attacked country gets ingenius fast.

    Ukraine is doing a knock-knock showing it can get drones to the Kremlin doorstep, it can get nukes there also. They might start with that bridge.

    But it can do that by land too of course. Many Russians guards being the greedy orks they are would hand deliver a bomb to their own capital for a billion.
     
    #13404     Jul 30, 2023
  5. Nobert

    Nobert



    Not sure of how accurate this info is, but Putin received a call from US and was told that the moment he does that, the next nuke will fall not on some strategic target but right on his head.

    On a funny note, Madvedev is a target of little importance thus will be taken out with home made fanta grenade from a drone.
     
    #13405     Jul 30, 2023
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Nobody wants Russians in their country...

    Liner with Russians departs Batumi 2 days early after "hospitable" reception
    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/27/7413163/

    The cruise ship Astoria Grande, carrying Russian tourists, sailed from the Georgian city of Batumi on Thursday evening, two days ahead of schedule, under pressure from local protesters.

    Source: Netgazeti news outlet, reported by European Pravda

    Details: Residents of Batumi gathered near the cruise ship, which had arrived from the Russian city of Sochi a day earlier, at 21:00 Kyiv time. They chanted "Russian ship, go f**k yourself" and "Abkhazia is Georgian", and brought photographs depicting Abkhazia and the events of the August war.

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    Those present at the pier where Astoria Grande docked also sang the Georgian national anthem.

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    During the rally, a Russian flag appeared in one of the ship's cabins, but it was soon removed. An hour after the protest, the Astoria Grande finally left the port.



    Batumi residents were outraged by the arrival of the ship from Russia and the comments made by Russian tourists on board. In interviews with local media outlets, those Russians claimed that Russia had not occupied Georgia, "we are still in the Soviet Union", and one of the tourists openly stated that she had visited Abkhazia, which is a violation of Georgian law.

    The Maritime Transport Agency of Georgia said the day before that the arrival of the Astoria Grande cruise ship was commercial. The liner is registered in the Seychelles in the name of Goodwin Shipping Limited and is not subject to international sanctions.

    Background: Last spring, Georgia allowed three airlines to operate direct flights to Russia, including those that had been operating flights to annexed Crimea.
     
    #13406     Jul 30, 2023
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  7. virtusa

    virtusa

    Medvedev threatens nuclear weapons in case of success of Ukraine's counteroffensive
    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/30/7413487/

    I told already many times: don't care about the nuclear threat. Russia will always use it at their own convenience.
    • First it was if the existence of Russia would be in danger
    • next it was if Ukraine would bomb Crimea
    • now it is if Ukraine is successful in their counteroffensive
    We will never have any guarantee that they will not use nukes, so better don't pay attention to that. Just give Ukraine all they need and we will see what Russia will do. The other option is to fulfill all actual and also future wishes of Putin. So there will be no limitation anymore at all. Putin can destroy then any country, kill all those he wants and steal everything everywhere.

    Just prepare the Western reaction in case Russia would go nuclear. That's all we can do.
    You can never ever trust any Russian anymore.
     
    #13407     Jul 30, 2023
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Do the Putin propagandists really think a second visit of this cruise ship will go any better.

    Cruise ship that outraged Georgians belongs to Russian businessman sanctioned in Ukraine
    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/30/7413466/

    The Georgian TV company Pirveli reported that the cruise ship Astoria Grande, the arrival of which was protested in Batumi due to the presence of Russian tourists on board, is owned by Russian businessman Dmitry Purim.

    Source: Pirveli TV channel, as European Pravda reports

    The Astoria Grande ship is officially registered in the Seychelles to avoid sanctions. However, Pirveli claims that its real owner is Dmitry Purim, against whom Ukraine has imposed sanctions.

    Purim is the chairman of the board of directors of Sovfracht. That company provides transport and logistics services, sea and river cargo transport, and ship agency services.

    According to Ukraine’s National Agency on Corruption Prevention, the sanctions were imposed on him because he is a member of the senior management of a "systemically important company involved in material support of actions that undermine or threaten the territorial integrity, sovereignty and independence of Ukraine".

    Sovfracht has been under US sanctions since 1 September 2016 for its activities in occupied Crimea.

    Background:
    • On 31 July, the Astoria Grande is expected to arrive in Batumi for the second time. Russian propagandists and artists who support the war are expected to be aboard the cruise ship.
    • Among them will be Mitya Fomin, a singer who is an outspoken supporter of Russia's war in Ukraine and Putin's regime.
    • On 27 July, the Astoria Grande cruise ship carrying Russian tourists arrived in Batumi, Georgia, causing local residents to protest. They chanted "Russian ship, go f**k yourself" and "Abkhazia is Georgia", and brought photographs depicting Abkhazia and the events of the August war [in 1992 between Georgia and Russia in the region of Abkhazia - ed.].
    • That same evening, the ship left Batumi, two days earlier than planned.
     
    #13408     Jul 30, 2023
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Georgians prepare to protest arrival of cruise ship carrying Russian tourists
    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/30/7413472/
     
    #13409     Jul 30, 2023
  10. Nobert

    Nobert





    Instead of shield or on the sword :
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    #13410     Jul 30, 2023
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