Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. kashirin

    kashirin

    I'm not ignoring you

    gwb-trading just more fun and I don't want my responses to dominate this thread, so I limit myself to 1-2 posts and even not every day

    make some more posts even more stupid than his and I will gladly respond
     
    #13261     Jul 20, 2023
  2. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    moscow and leningrad should completely be destroyed.

    (like bakhmut, aleppo, etc.)

    that would be fair.

    but for russia it would be cheaper to just kill putin.
     
    #13262     Jul 21, 2023
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  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You are incapable of putting together coherent sentences. I expect this is because Russians are drunk all the time. You really should lay off the vodka, but it's the probably the only thing that has you believing all of the Kremlin's lies. It's quite sad.

    Today, let's explore the actual Wagner casualty figures -- instead of the fantasy promoted within Russia.

    Wagner Reveals Massive Death Toll Figures for Mercenaries Fighting in Ukraine
    According to the unverified numbers, just 16,000 Wagner fighters have made it through Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine alive and uninjured so far.
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/19639

    A Wagner mercenary fighting in Ukraine had only a 1-in-5 chance of making it through unscathed, according to the latest figures.

    The unverified numbers, posted on Telegram by several Wagner-affiliated channels, claim that in all operations from the start of Russia’s full-scale invasion up until the “capture of Bakhmut” on May 20:

    · Wagner had 78,000 thousand fighters in total.

    · 49,000 of these were convicts.

    · 22,000 were killed.

    · 40,000 wounded

    This leave just 16,000 that made it through the fighting without being killed or injured.

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    The figures appear to have been released in response to Russian Ministry of Defense claims that 33,000 Wagner fighters had signed contracts with the Kremlin in the wake of the aborted coup attempt by the group’s chief, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

    The message – it’s unclear if they are Prighozin’s words or those of someone else – says: “I cannot say where the 33,000 people who went to the Ministry of Defense came from. Here’s the real math.

    "In total, 78 thousand fighters of the PMC Wagner passed through the Ukrainian business trip.

    "Of these, 49 thousand are prisoners from the camps. At the time of the capture of Bakhmut (May 20), 22 thousand soldiers were killed, 40 thousand were wounded.”

    It adds that currently there are 25,000 Wagner fighters who are “alive and healthy” plus those wounded who are still receiving treatment.

    “Of these, up to 10 thousand have left and are leaving for Belarus,” it adds. “15,000 have already gone on vacation.

    “How the 33 thousand who went to the military were formed is still unknown to me. If all those killed and those who went on vacation signed contracts, then this is possible. You can't argue here.”

    Accurate figures for the numbers of dead and wounded for both the Russian and Ukrainian sides are difficult to come by.

    Kyiv does not release official figures for Ukrainian losses and Moscow’s official number of 5,937 has not been updated since September and was almost certainly a vast underestimate even at the time.

    Prigozhin has been more forthcoming with discussing Wagner fighter casualties, saying in May that 20,000 of his fighters had been killed in the battle for Bakhmut.

    An intercepted phone call between a Russian soldier and his wife published last month has shed some light on the huge losses suffered by the Wagner mercenary group.

    In the call, the soldier says: “My acquaintance, who is now at Wagner, he’s a driver, and he makes more than 15 trips a day – [in] a KAMAZ truck completely filled with corpses.”

    In December Mykhailo Podolyak, a senior adviser to President Volodymyr Zelensky, said official estimates of the number of Ukrainian troops killed “range from 10,000… to 13,000” but did not give a figure for the number of wounded.

    Podolyak did say that Zelensky would make the official data public “when the right moment comes,” but there is currently no indication when that might be.

    The Ukrainian Defense Forces claim that 239,480 Russian troops have been killed since the start of Moscow’s full-scale invasion.
     
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2023
    #13263     Jul 21, 2023
  4. virtusa

    virtusa

    #13264     Jul 22, 2023
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  5. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    putin - the problem.

    dead putin - the solution.
     
    #13265     Jul 22, 2023
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #13266     Jul 22, 2023
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


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    In July 2023, Shaman released a clip from his song My Fight (Russian: Мой бой, romanized: Moy Boy); the clip received over a million views in its first 24 hours. While it was praised by Russian news outlets, it was criticized on Russian social media by many, including journalist Artemy Troitsky, for its perceived references to Hitler's Mein Kampf.[10]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaman_(singer)
     
    #13267     Jul 22, 2023
  8. Nobert

    Nobert

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    #13268     Jul 23, 2023
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  9. virtusa

    virtusa

    #13269     Jul 23, 2023
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  10. I guess some of Vlad's buddies are having sudden problems with "cardiac arrest" or something. Yeah, cholesterol problems. That's it. I thought that after McDonald's closed in Moscow, it might help some of these guys to improve their health a bit. Apparently not.



    Two Putin allies mysteriously die in just 48 hours as Russia faces more Ukraine setbacks

    A key ally of Vladimir Putin has become the second high profile Russian to die under mysterious circumstances in 48 hours.

    Anton Cherepennikov, who had a core role in Russia's spying network, was found dead in his office in Moscow.

    https://www.gbnews.com/news/world/ukraine-war-vladimir-putin-allies-dead-new-setbacks
     
    #13270     Jul 23, 2023
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