Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Over the past two weeks, eight Russian soldiers were found killed in different areas of occupied Mariupol in Donetsk Oblast, Ukrainian authorities said, citing Russian channels on Telegram.

    Source: Mariupol City Council on Telegram with reference to one of the Russian Telegram channels

    Details: According to an unnamed Russian officer, who is now located in Mariupol, eight soldiers were found murdered in different parts of the city over the past two weeks: six of them were stabbed, two shot in the back of the head.

    According to the officer, the facts of deaths are carefully concealed so that panic does not begin among the Russian units.
     
    #12931     Jul 5, 2023
  2. terr

    terr

    Sic semper occupantis.
     
    #12932     Jul 5, 2023
  3. M.W.

    M.W.

    EXACTLY, thousands dead, not hundred thousands. Again, thanks for making my point. Life goes on as virtually normal in Russia.

    Russians love Russia. Check out net migration rates. The post Ukraine blip is not even visible on charts, lol. Still more move to Russia than leave Russia, lol. Would not be the case if life was so unbearable. Nothing in historical context. Nothing to be seen, move on folks.

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    #12933     Jul 5, 2023
  4. M.W.

    M.W.

    #12934     Jul 5, 2023
  5. M.W.

    M.W.

    Dumping their old stuff in shit hole Ukraine. Awesome, no need to properly dispose of.

     
    #12935     Jul 5, 2023
  6. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Oh so now it's virtually normal from normal because only 100 thousand died and not hundreds of thousands. You do realize it's still a huge number for a country like Russia?

    You ignored the closed factories, conscription, people fleeing the country, having to import basic stuff from Kazhakstan and the list goes on.

    But as long as they are discriminating against LGBT and women are shown their place as inferiors, I guess its all normal for you.
     
    #12936     Jul 5, 2023
  7. M.W.

    M.W.

    Hundred thousand Russian soldiers did not die in this Ukraine conflict so far. That's a fact. A few thousand died to bring back the stolen part of Mother Russia.

    People fleeing the country? Are you retarded? I just posted the net migration statistics since 1950s. Net migration is still UP. MORE MOVE TO RUSSIA THAN LEAVE RUSSIA, idiot.

     
    #12937     Jul 5, 2023
  8. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    It's a fact because the Russian Propaganda Ministry said so? How is it a fact, tell us your source.

    Funny, how the guy who actually fought for Russia says the goals were opposite

    "The task was to divide material assets (in Ukraine)," Prigozhin said. "There was massive theft in the Donbas, but they wanted more."
     
    #12938     Jul 5, 2023
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  9. piezoe

    piezoe

    A mind is a terrible thing to lose. You are losing yours! There is really only one way that someone could be so completely out of touch with reality as you, and that would be to rely on Russian State Media as a source of information. Even in Russia more reliable sources are available, though not necessarily convenient to access. What is wrong with you?
     
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    #12939     Jul 5, 2023
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  10. piezoe

    piezoe

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/cur...tions-settle-trade-rupees-sources-2023-05-04/

    NEW DELHI/MUMBAI, May 4 (Reuters) - India and Russia have suspended efforts to settle bilateral trade in rupees, after months of negotiations failed to convince Moscow to keep rupees in its coffers, two Indian government officials and a source with direct knowledge of the matter said.

    This would be a major setback for Indian importers of cheap oil and coal from Russia who were awaiting a permanent rupee payment mechanism to help lower currency conversion costs.

    With a high trade gap in favour of Russia, Moscow believes it will end up with an annual rupee surplus of over $40 billion if such a mechanism is worked out and feels rupee accumulation is 'not desirable', an Indian government official, who did not want to be named, told Reuters.

    India's finance ministry, the central Reserve Bank of India and Russian authorities did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

    The rupee is not fully convertible. India's share of global exports of goods also is just about 2% and these factors reduce the necessity for other countries to hold rupees.

    India started exploring a rupee settlement mechanism with Russia soon the invasion of Ukraine in February last year, but there has been no reported deal done in rupees. Most trade is in dollars but an increasing amount is being carried out in other currencies like the UAE dirham.

    The two sides have spoken about facilitating trade in local currencies but the guidelines were not formalised.

    Russia is not comfortable holding rupees and wants to be paid in Chinese yuan or other currencies, a second Indian government official involved in the discussions said.

    "We don't want to push rupee settlement any more, that mechanism is just not working. India has tried everything we could to try and make this work but it hasn't helped," a third source who is directly aware of the developments said.

    Since Russia's invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24 last year, India's imports from Russia have risen to $51.3 billion until April 5, from $10.6 bln in the same period in the previous year, according to another Indian government official.

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    Discounted oil has constituted a large part of India's imports, surging twelve-fold in the period. Exports from India in the same period fell slightly to $3.43 bln from $3.61 bln in the previous year, the official said.

    Another official said both countries have started looking for alternatives after the rupee settlement mechanism did not work out but did not give details.

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    The sources said trade with Russia has been continuing despite sanctions and payment issues.

    "Right now we are making some payments in dirham and a few other currencies but the majority is still in dollars. Settlement is happening in different ways, third party countries are also being used," one of the government officials said.

    Indian traders are currently also settling some of the trade payments outside Russia, the officials said.

    "Third-parties are being used to settle trade with Russia. There is no ban on transacting with other countries over SWIFT. So payments are being made to a third country which route it or offset it for their trade with Russia," the other official said.

    On whether money was also being routed via China, the official said: "Yes, including China".

    Reporting by Swati Bhat and Aftab Ahmed; Editing by Raju Gopalakrishnan
     
    #12940     Jul 5, 2023