What other issue would we be talking about? I'm not Vanz going on tangents, of course on this issue. America is far from perfect, so if that's your measuring stick every country short of Utopia is "always bad". Let me rephrase since it wasn't obvious from the thread topic: As I have said however, the "America interventionism always bad" bloc of the left has been no better than MAGAtards at being useful idiots falling for Russian propaganda.
I think you need to revisit history. When Obama reached out to Kim, FOX news called him bad names for negotiating with a terrorist. When trump reached out, it was the greates thing ever. Funny how things change as the politics change. By the way.... Kim and North Korea are no different than where it was in 2006 so politics as usual. To be fair.. Kim was pretty much contained in his own country barely able to feed his people and never really threatening any one in the region outside of some weak words. North Korea was a threat in name only since 1953. Putin actually invaded Georgia, Crimea, helped Syria and now invaded Ukraine.... not the same as little Kim at all... The best thing to do is contain him in Ukraine and starve Russia financially until the suffer like the way they are making those Ukranians suffer. I am happy to see the world turn its back on Russia because Russian atheltes and millionaires have not cared about Putin as long as they made their money. Well now the spigot is shut off from soccer to banking...time to stop being pussies as your "elected" president terrorizes the world.
What are you basing your belief that Putin is likely to move to some of the non-European Soviet sat states before coming back to invade Europe? I'm genuinely asking here, because I can't see how you would come to this not being about the Ukraine. Its possible the West knows exactly what it is doing, and understands that putting up a no-fly zone that they enforce will only get them into a shooting war with Russia. Thankfully, they - not you - are calling the shots.
I think China is smarter than we are.... they flash all that military and saber rattling but they already realized that being an economic power is the easiest and safest way to make the rest of the world its little bitch and we are too dependent on them to ever take such a strong sanction route. That means they talk a good talk about Taiwan but they make billions so it is just to show off. China got upset at the NBA over a comment and the NBA bent over within hours. That power is far greater than nuke in Russia. Most vodka is not even made in Russia and main export is wheat. They are a 3rd world economy with 1st world military. China is 1st world now all the way and if they were smart (i doubt it) they would just keep on running the world via its economy and how it sends Chinese companies into all parts of the world to invest and build.
GWB doesn't seem to understand that a no fly zone means NATO likely shooting down Russia planes/killing Russian troops.Might as well put troops on the ground if they are going to do that.