Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Jesus Christ dude... you should tell us how you really feel.
     
    #12481     Jun 20, 2023
  2. M.W.

    M.W.

    That is how I really feel. I have a deep rooted passion for underdogs that really want to climb up but lack opportunities. You won't find someone who devotes more time, efforts, and personal finances into helping those who want to succeed but lack opportunities. But you also won't find someone who dislikes lazy and entitled fucks more than I do. There are differences among races, no question, but anyone who suggests such is labeled a racist, so be it then I am a racist. But fact remains that Chinese immigrants some time ago were not treated one inch better than blacks in America. Japanese Americans were interned during the pacific war. Koreans came with nothing, dirt poor. So did many others. Yet they fought hard, they strived, they battled, and they succeeded on average. Please tell us why the inner cities are filled with predominantly black and some white trash? Difference is that a majority of blacks are still struggling, going nowhere, yet the white trash represents a minority of its ethnic group. I explicitly mentioned many minorities in the US in my comparison so that nobody can accuse me of comparing blacks and whites. I fully acknowledge that on average whites had way more privileges some time ago. That's not the case anymore today.

    An elagitarian society with equal privileges and responsibilities does not mean to shower lazy fucks with billions of dollars. The blacks in the US are the indigenous in Canada. Today they are presented with the precisely identical privileges and opportunities than everyone else (and in most cases with more privileges and advantages than the rest) yet they squander all the opportunities. Even the God damn Saudis learned over time to use their oil money to invest in global leading corporations rather than building vacation resorts in the sand desert and other pipe dreams. At some point blacks and the indigenous need to get their finger out of their ass and start working and succeeding, we can't feed them forever.

    And now back to pretending Ukraine is winning that war and Russia will be on its knees in the next 8 weeks.

     
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    #12482     Jun 20, 2023
  3. zdreg

    zdreg

    Are you translating from another language? To be on you feet implies to be in charge of your circumstance.
     
    #12483     Jun 20, 2023
  4. M.W.

    M.W.

    Meant on its knees, edited. Thanks

     
    #12484     Jun 20, 2023
  5. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    For one, blacks were imported in as slaves and were institutionally discriminated against for centuries, you cannot compare them to Koreans or Chinese who weren't systematically targeted for education and job opportunities.

    But thanks for another profound display of ignorance, must be nice to pass judgement from your high ground of achievement. Now do Russians immigrants who are mostly whores and criminals but since they are white, you will give them a pass for sure.
     
    #12485     Jun 20, 2023
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  6. M.W.

    M.W.

    That's total bollocks. Chinese could not participate in the same educational opportunities, healthcare, had no voting rights, could not own properties. Japanese were interned as recently as the 1940s. Show us where blacks were systemically imprisoned just for being black in the 1940 and onward. I acknowledged that wrongdoing was committed in the past. Those wrongs were abolished, repented of, and made whole. You can't as 2nd or 3rd descendent claim you suffer from the ills of slavery today. That is ridiculous and means not taking responsibility of your life today.

     
    #12486     Jun 20, 2023
  7. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Ah yes, the model minority canard that racists throw while forgetting that the Japanese and Chinese became politically useful after the world war, not to mention that they weren't in enough large numbers for your average conservative racist to systematically target. Since their numbers were marginal so your average racist didn't mind them progressing, blacks on the other hand were the largest minority group and protesting for equal rights which of course was not acceptable.
     
    #12487     Jun 20, 2023
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  8. M.W.

    M.W.

    Tell us how a black or indigenous child today is left behind because of systemic racism. And how everyone else on average strives and succeeds. Ridiculous excuse of laziness and hopelessness that is of no fault by society.

     
    #12488     Jun 20, 2023
  9. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Controlling for disadvantage across each context over time, the scholars determined that, consistent with prior research, family resources explain by far the biggest share of Black-white education gaps.

    “This finding implies that material differences in the contexts inherited by Black and white children – rather than individual effort – drive the large education gaps we observe,” they write. “These trends have persisted through the recent era of federal accountability reforms.”

    After family background, Rich and Michelmore found that schools – specifically, schools that are highly segregated due to systemic inequality in wealth and housing – are “consequential,” disproportionately exposing Black students to disadvantage for longer durations.

    “Results from our study support concerns that schools exacerbate Black-white inequality,” they write, countering recent debates suggesting that neighborhood context primarily drives differences in student outcomes.

    When they controlled for all three contexts together, the researchers found that gaps of nearly 13% in high school graduation and 17% in college enrollment were not only eliminated but reversed, and disparities in test scores narrowed dramatically.


    https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2022/10/income-segregated-schools-drive-black-white-education-gaps
     
    #12489     Jun 20, 2023
  10. M.W.

    M.W.

    You are equating personal choices with systemic oppression. And of course you find enough "academic" support for your fantasy stories. After all most academic institutions today are as woke as it gets, the more begging the question of the value of post secondary education today. "family resources" today are choices. Spend income on a fat new truck or drugs or on a child's education. Fuck around without protection and have multiple children out of wedlock in single parent homes. Be abusive or loving to children. Workimg hard to make it out of gangbanger districts or not. All personal choices. None of which are the fault of society. Asians made choices FOR their children not against them. So do Hispanics, Jews, European descendents and all others. It's by majority indigenous and blacks who can't get a grip on poverty and an endless cycle of failure.

     
    #12490     Jun 20, 2023