Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. The funniest thing I read recently is that thieves are now stealing more and more machinery, breaking it up into spares and shipping to Russia via other channels. Where is will, there is a way. Sanctions shmyanctions haha.
     
    #12191     Jun 11, 2023
  2. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Can't turn it around that easily little guy. It's all the same with you and the other Nazis who say everybody else is the Nazi to hide their actual Nazi.

    The US conservative right has been doing that trick for a looooog time. They invented the whole Nazi thing, Hitler just added more stylish uniforms being an artist he had an eye for design.

    I'm Irish, you saying we were the worst the world has ever seen is a bit of a streach. OK, U2 did get on a lot of people's nerves eventually but it's hardly comparable.

    So you are talking out your arse and got the same in-kind. Your feelings are not historical record.
     
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    #12192     Jun 11, 2023
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  3. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    You read or you saw someone on TikTok ranting. I like how eager you are to believe stuff without evidence.

    Meanwhile, the war is going really well after a year, what a great superpower.

    Russia appears to have moved to take direct control of Wagner, after months of infighting between defence officials and the private military group.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65871232
     
    #12193     Jun 11, 2023
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  4. M.W.

    M.W.

    You are an idiot who is completely beholden to the majority opinions on woke social media of the day. Like a sailing boat without rudder, changing course whenever the wind blows from a different direction.

    Just listen to your own content for a moment: "...other Nazis who say everybody else is the Nazi to hide their actual Nazi."

    What a bunch of nonsense. You just love to call everyone a nazi who does not agree with you.
     
    #12194     Jun 11, 2023
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  5. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    How free are Russians to have a opinion of their own? Would you call Russian society anti-woke because they can't express any view not authorized by the government?
     
    #12195     Jun 11, 2023
  6. Here is the much awaited data of total deaths in the Uk and Sweden, one had lockdowns and another one hadn’t. Your MSM was telling us what exactly about C19? And educated folks on TikTok and the likes were telling us pretty much the opposite of what MSM was telling us, same goes for Iraq’s WMDs, can’t trust any advice or prognosis about financial markets dished out on MSM, the list of bullshit is long. It’s your choice who to listen to irrespective of media. I don’t know anyone who trusts what politicians say when they open their mouths, but when it comes to Ukraine, let’s believe everything they say, aha Ok, makes sense.

    P.S. flu was wiped out during the pandemic, only C19 was killing people hahaha

    Sweden:

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    UK

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    #12196     Jun 11, 2023
  7. I will choose this person on Twitter over any twat on TV that tries to tell me that transgender is the new normal.

     
    #12197     Jun 11, 2023
  8. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Why compare UK and Sweden? Why not Russia or China were lockdowns were absolute.

    Did the Western MSM made Russia and China lockdown the country?

    Will you actually answer this or shy away from criticizing your two favorite countries?
     
    #12198     Jun 11, 2023
  9. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Why are you people so obsessed with trans? All day thinking of nothing else than trans and gay sex.

    It's all connected bro

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    #12199     Jun 11, 2023
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  10. The situation between Prigo and Shoigu/Gerasimov is getting worse by the day.
    Vlad's role in this is sort of strange. On one hand he looks weakened by not being able to put Prigo in his place. On the other hand, he likes having Prigo blame everything on the Russian army commanders day in and day out so that the public will blame the army rather than Putin.

    It is sort of a sick game that Putin is playing off in the bunker. The only reality that matters in the long run for Putin is whether Russia is gaining or losing territory as the war progresses. If Putin is gaining he is all set, if not, he is not.


    Ukraine war: Russia moves to take direct control of Wagner Group

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65871232

    Russia appears to have moved to take direct control of Wagner, after months of infighting between defence officials and the private military group.

    Deputy Defence Minister Nikolai Pankov said on Saturday "volunteer formations" will be asked to sign contracts directly with the ministry of defence.

    The vaguely worded statement is widely believed to target the group.

    But in a furious statement on Sunday, Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin said his forces would boycott the contracts.

    The private military group has played a major role in the war in Ukraine, fighting on the side of Russian forces.

    But Prigozhin, who is said to hold political ambitions of his own, has been embroiled in a public dispute with Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu and military chief Valery Gerasimov for months.


    He has repeatedly accused the pair of incompetence and of deliberately undersupplying Wagner units fighting in Ukraine.

    "Wagner will not sign any contracts with Shoigu," Prigozhin said in response to a request for comment on the defence ministry's announcement. "Shoigu cannot properly manage military formation."

    He insisted that his group was well integrated with the Russian military, but said that its effectiveness would be damaged by having to report to the defence minister.

    While Saturday's announcement did not directly reference Wagner or any other paramilitary groups, Russian media suggested that the new contracts were a move to bring Prigozhin and his forces under control.

    But the defence ministry said the move was designed to "increase the effectiveness" of Russian units fighting in Ukraine.

    "This will give volunteer formations the necessary legal status, create common approaches to the organization of comprehensive support and the fulfilment of their tasks," the ministry said in a statement, adding that the contracts must be signed by 1 July.


    The long-running tensions between the Wagner Group and the army have threatened to boil over in recent weeks.

    Last week the group kidnapped a senior frontline army commander, Lt Col Roman Venevitin, after accusing him of opening fire on a Wagner vehicle near Bakhmut.

    Lt Col Venevitin was later released, and in a video shared by Russian military bloggers he accused the group of stoking "anarchy" on Russia's frontlines by stealing arms, forcing mobilised soldiers to sign contracts with the group and attempting to extort weapons from the defence ministry.

    Prigozhin called the comments - which appeared to be read from a script - "absolutely total nonsense".

    He has also suggested that he is ready to deploy his troops on Russian soil, saying on Telegram that Wagner was ready to fight against insurrectionist forces in the Belgorod region.

    In December, the US estimated that Wagner had around 50,000 troops fighting in Ukraine.


    And the mercenary group has increasingly become a tool of Russian state power around the world. Its troops are currently believed to have been deployed in Mali, the Central African Republic,Sudan and Libya.

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    #12200     Jun 11, 2023