Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Actually I do not mean Iraq.That was The US's fuck up, by one of the worst US presidents ever,and most Americans agree.Unlike you and Russia most Americans aren't defending it.
     
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    #12111     Jun 9, 2023
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  2. Fair enough, I apologise for making an assumption.
     
    #12112     Jun 9, 2023
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  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    :thumbsup:
     
    #12113     Jun 9, 2023
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  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Saddam should not have invaded Kuwait and slaughtered all of those people. In the same way the dictator Putin should not have invaded Ukraine and slaughtered all of those people. The retribution will be harsh and just.
     
    #12115     Jun 9, 2023
  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    That did not give Bushs dumb ass the right invade Iraq the 2nd time.The 2nd Iraq war was one of the worst fuck ups in US history and there is no justification for it.Thanks Bush.Republican voters really knows how to pick em.


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    #12116     Jun 9, 2023
  7. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Putin losing elite support

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    Sputnik/Ilya Pitalev/Kremlin via REUTERS

    Russia’s elite is increasingly downbeat about the war in Ukraine, shaking support for President Vladimir Putin’s leadership, Bloomberg reported. “It is really surprising how widespread” the sentiment is that Moscow won’t win, a former Russian government adviser said. The despondency has been fueled in part by the growing web of sanctions against Russia’s wealthy, as well as drone and armed attacks within the country. Though none are reportedly willing to challenge Putin, their concern, coupled with outspoken criticism from Wagner mercenary group chief Yevgeny Prigozhin, amounts to a significant threat to Putin’s rule. “When you try to generate a system without politics,” the historian Timothy Snyder wrote recently, “any politics at all feels like a challenge to the legitimacy of the state.”
     
    #12117     Jun 9, 2023
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  8. Vlad looking and sounding like he needs a hug.

    C'mon guys. Show some compassion - we have all been there.

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    Putin Cops to ‘Significant Losses,’ Inferior Weapons in Stunning War Admission

    Putin Cops to ‘Significant Losses,’ Inferior Weapons in Stunning War Admission (msn.com)


    In a rare admission, Russian President Vladimir Putin acknowledged Friday that Russia is sustaining “significant losses” in the war on Ukraine.

    “In recent days, we have seen significant losses in Ukraine, they exceed the classical figure,” he said, according to the Kremlin.

    The Russian president also confessed that Russian forces were dealing with artillery problems, adding in his remarks that “Yes, we still do not have enough of these modern weapons, but the defense industry, the country's military-industrial complex is developing rapidly.”

    The dispirited comments about Moscow’s prospects in the war come just as Ukraine has launched a series of counteroffensives to push Russian forces out of the country.

    The acknowledgment is a stark departure from typical messaging from Moscow. Putin and other Kremlin officials have long sought to paint the invasion as a success throughout the war, despite a stinging slew of losses and failed war plans. In March of last year, Putin claimed the operations were going according to plan, regardless of the Russian military’s failure to seize Ukraine’s capital, Kyiv, in an embarrassing defeat.

    It doesn’t appear that Putin has completely thrown in the towel just yet, though. The Russian president attempted to throw cold water on the idea that Ukraine is fully succeeding in their counteroffensive. He added, however, that the Ukrainian military may yet achieve victory on the battlefield.

    “It can be stated that all counteroffensive attempts made so far have failed, but the offensive potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has still been preserved,” Putin said.

    The Kremlin has been working to right-size expectations within Russia about the outcome of the war. Moscow recently circulated a memo to propagandists suggesting that Russia hasn’t underestimated Ukrainian forces, in an apparent effort to set the stage for a less humiliating defeat.




     
    #12118     Jun 9, 2023
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  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    There were not hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilian deaths during the invasion of Kuwait and desert storm follow up, don't be daft.
     
    #12119     Jun 9, 2023
  10. kashirin

    kashirin

    Ukrainian Nazis definitely see harsh and just retribution burning in western tanks.
     
    #12120     Jun 9, 2023