Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #11811     May 24, 2023
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Wasn't he supposed to be dead already? I thought you guys were saying he would be overthrown by now? Or was that after Russia invaded Moldovia? Or was it Latvia? No, wait, that was after the economy of Russia was going to collapse. Crap, no, that was before the split up of Russia into more republics. Er, maybe...hell, I don't know anymore.

    Its hard to follow all your predictions. Maybe you could make a list with timelines?
     
    #11812     May 24, 2023
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #11813     May 24, 2023

  4. Bot.
     
    #11814     May 24, 2023
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Vatnik.
     
    #11815     May 24, 2023
  6. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    But who here is defending US's checkered past? Your logic is that US does bad things and hence Russia's dumb invasion should be supported.
     
    #11816     May 25, 2023
  7. No. What I am saying is these countries are all the same and they will retaliate when another country starts to come up with ideas which are potentially threatening to national security or economy or both, but all you seem to hear when you read an opposite view to yours, is support for Russia. Logical thinking does not just lead to yes or no type of conclusions, there is all the stuff in between. So to say it again, I do not support Russia, I definitely do not support the US and it’s gang of spineless allies (EU etc), I do feel sorry for all the Ukrainians that perished as a consequence of the invasion, but what I do support is peace. I understand why this is happening and that it is not as simple as Putin bad, ROW good. Cause that’s all that I see here, so yeah, you do have propaganda in the west, it exists everywhere on different levels, I will give you that.

    Show me your posts, specifically @gwb-trading criticising and calling for economic sanctions on the US and UK when they invaded Iraq which resulted in the slaughter of many more civilians than currently in Ukraine, and I will stop posting here.
     
    #11817     May 25, 2023
  8. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    By that same reasoning/logic o_O are there Russians or their sympathizers here (kashirin etc) calling for sanctions against itself for invading Ukraine. Of course not.

    Reality is the nation with biggest military does what is right or just does what it wants. Always has, always will. Also rans always just bitch. Always. Pffffft.
     
    #11818     May 25, 2023
  9. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Who cares what 'these countries are same' or whatever, if they do something as stupid as invading your neighbor to grab land, you criticize them - what's with the thousand whataboutisms. Who here is supporting Iraq war? There were millions who protested it and nobody went to jail for it like how Putin does it. Can someone in Putin's Russia even oppose the invasion? How does the country treat them? How can you say that Europe or US is equivalent to Putin's Russia?
     
    #11819     May 25, 2023
  10. Not equivalent. Let the figures of casualties speak for themselves. It is not whataboutism in my books, it is pointing out the hypocrisy of western propaganda. I can accuse you of whataboutism when you make a comparison in the above post about how Russia treats critics of invasion and how the US did. Why are you whataabouting?

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    #11820     May 25, 2023
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