Russia & Ukraine

Master Pu · May 18, 2023

SunTrader said:
Reality is this ..............

The failure of Russia’s Wunderwaffe is game over for Putin

Colonel Richard Kemp
Thu, May 18, 2023 at 2:00 AM EDT

Explosion of a missile is seen in the sky over the city during a Russian missile strike, amid Russia's attack on Ukraine, in Kyiv, Ukraine May 16, 2023

I was in Kyiv on Monday night when Ukraine’s capital was hit by its biggest missile attack since the war began.

It was more than just another attempt to terrorise the city. Following hard on the heels of President Zelensky’s visit to Europe with renewed guarantees of military aid, it amounted to a demonstration of force by an increasingly beleaguered Russian dictator.

In half an hour the city was attacked from the north, south and east. In came ballistic missiles, Iranian Shahed loitering drones, Kalibr 'hypersonic' cruise missiles launched from warships in the Black Sea, and Kinzhal hypersonic missiles fired from MiG-31K fighter planes.

The result of this tremendous firepower was nothing short of abject humiliation for Putin.

I watched as Ukraine’s combined air defence forces, including American Patriots and German Gepards, seemingly knocked every Russian missile out of the sky. Just three people were injured by falling rocket debris, there was minimal physical damage and – by daylight – the city had returned to normal as though nothing had happened.

This event symbolises both Ukrainian resilience and Russian weakness. Especially the latter.

After Putin was taken aback by the unexpected failure of his initial invasion last February, he came up with a hasty Plan B. That was to invest in Wunderwaffe (“wonder weapons”), in the same way as Hitler did in the second half of the Second World War, while building up his forces for a renewed offensive this spring.

That much-heralded assault has not materialised, with the Russian army so far barely able to push forward a few miles in one or two places – and at the cost of massive casualties. I spoke today to a Ukrainian field commander fresh from the fighting in Bakhmut, who told me that after the war Ukraine should construct a monument to Russian military corruption, to which he attributes its inability to build and equip sufficient forces or learn from repeated tactical and strategic blunders.

The failure of the second prong of Putin’s plan – his wonder weapons – is perhaps even more damaging. When he first unveiled the Kinzhals in 2018 he claimed they could penetrate all existing and future missile defence systems. Just before the invasion of Ukraine he boasted that Russia was the global leader in hypersonic missiles and, by the time other countries caught up, was likely to have developed technology to counteract these new weapons.

The harsh reality underlined in the latest apparent downing of all six Kinzhals fired at Kyiv has added to questions about Russia’s ability to project military power, including its nuclear arsenal, which has been the most significant factor in deterring all-out Western support for Ukraine.

US and European hesitancy over donating some of the much-needed weaponry for fear of escalation is being steadily overcome as Russia’s impotence becomes increasingly apparent. The UK’s recent supply of Storm Shadow long-range missiles and British and French decisions this week to train Ukrainian pilots and work with other countries to deliver F-16s are the latest indications of a growing resolve.

But it would be foolhardy to take any of this as an indication that a future Ukrainian victory is guaranteed. Kyiv is still in a desperate fight for its life and there is no sign that Russia is likely to give up. It is far from clear that the Ukrainian army possesses sufficient resources to mount the decisive counter-offensive that has long been talked of as imminent.

Commanders on the ground that I spoke to this week, while unfailingly grateful for what has been supplied so far, all stressed the urgent need for more tanks, combat planes, ammunition, missiles, artillery shells and drones. Morale remains high among Ukrainian forces despite over a year of war. Their bravery and fighting skill are unquestioned. But ultimately they can only prevail if the West continues to step up its military aid.

Putin’s latest disaster over Kyiv may well help to achieve that.

Colonel Richard Kemp is a former infantry commander
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My point is that the reality is that Kemp wrote this story, perhaps, whether it actually happened as he wrote is another matter altogether. Plenty of other stories floating about that Patriot system was taken out by a Kinzhal. Which is true?

SunTrader · May 18, 2023

Master Pu said:
My point is that the reality is that Kemp wrote this story, perhaps, whether it actually happened as he wrote is another matter altogether. Plenty of other stories floating about that Patriot system was taken out by a Kinzhal. Which is true?
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No you're point is you believe some TikTokker spouting off whatever he heard from .... some other TikTokker whatever he heard from ... Mother Russia

gwb-trading · May 18, 2023

The NATO Baltic countries want a few words on this absurd claim. Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia have historically endured enough abuse and occupation from Russia; they want no more of it.

Ex Russian PM Dmitry Medvedev claims Baltic countries belong to Russia
https://www.euronews.com/2023/05/17/russias-dmitry-medvedev-claims-baltic-countries-belong-to-russia

piezoe · May 18, 2023

Tsing Tao said:

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The Zelenskyy government has been very tough on corruption. Under Russian dominance Ukraine was incredibly corrupt, just as Russia is. Now, Ukraine has shown they want nothing more to do with endemic Russian corruption, or indeed anything Russian... Yet another reason the Western democracies should go all in on support for Ukraine. C'mon Biden, wake up and do it...

Master Pu · May 18, 2023

SunTrader said:
No you're point is you believe some TikTokker spouting off whatever he heard from .... some other TikTokker whatever he heard from ... Mother Russia
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You can't shoot down a hypersonic missile, do you really need MSM to tell you that if I was to run at 20 MPH and you were to chase me at 4 MPH, then you could somehow catch up with me? Is this some sort of new maths like anyone can now be a woman?

Tony Stark · May 18, 2023

gwb-trading · May 18, 2023

Master Pu said:
My point is that the reality is that Kemp wrote this story, perhaps, whether it actually happened as he wrote is another matter altogether. Plenty of other stories floating about that Patriot system was taken out by a Kinzhal. Which is true?
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gwb-trading · May 18, 2023

kashirin said:
It's interesting who will pilot those jets
I somehow think those won't be ukrainians

Given F-16 are less capable than ukrainian soviet jets which russian downed in hundreds we can expect a lot of western dead pilots soon

Although before that let's see how many westerners serviced destroyed Patriot system today.
I heard it requires around 100 serivicemen. I suspect most were NATO servicemen
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Yep... the vatnik clowns also claim that Russian tanks are superior to western tanks. Here is the reality...

SunTrader · May 18, 2023

Master Pu said:
You can't shoot down a hypersonic missile, do you really need MSM to tell you that if I was to run at 20 MPH and you were to chase me at 4 MPH, then you could somehow catch up with me? Is this some sort of new maths like anyone can now be a woman?
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So answer me this - why has your Mother Russia arrested 3 Scientists who developed this lol hypersonic ("can't shot it down") missile system for treason?

Cue Dr Eviiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil.

SunTrader · May 18, 2023

Master Pu said:
You can't shoot down a hypersonic missile, do you really need MSM to tell you that if I was to run at 20 MPH and you were to chase me at 4 MPH, then you could somehow catch up with me? Is this some sort of new maths like anyone can now be a woman?
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Douglas Macgregor

Hahaha

"He regularly contributes to Fox News and Russian state media, where his opinions on Russia and Ukraine have caused controversy."

'Splains all.