Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Prigozhin's admission about daily Russian deaths is eye opening.


    Putin's Ally Threatens To Abandon Ukraine War; Admits Thousands Of Russians Die Daily

    https://www.ibtimes.com/putins-ally...r-admits-thousands-russians-die-daily-3690183
     
    #11241     May 1, 2023
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

  3. Snuskpelle

    Snuskpelle

    Zelensky is a Jew. Just to state an obvious fact incongruent with the idiot narrative you are held captive to.

    Practically every country in Europe has local Nazis (especially Russia, e.g. guess why the Wagner group was called so by its Nazi founder?), that implies nothing about their presence or more importantly lack of in government.

    Putinist Russia is an actual fascist state where the fascism in anchored by the regime, by every measure. With an effective propaganda leading gullible people like you to support deliberate genocide, rape, kidnapping of children, by the hundreds of thousands so far.

    Your belief bubble is about to be burst by reality though.
     
    #11243     May 1, 2023
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  4. UsualName

    UsualName

    There are some signals that this is already underway, btw. The attack on the oil depot in Crimea was a major provocation by Ukraine. And, launched a pretty significant air campaign yesterday that allegedly involved two Russian bombers. There is some talk that the Patriot system held up well in its first use yesterday in the Ukrainian theater. All for the good.

    Also, some reporting of Ukrainian movement in Bakhmut today and Russian retreats. We will see.

    However, if the Ukrainians got those ADs up and they are effective then yeah, I could see a big push soon. Maybe even now.
     
    #11244     May 1, 2023
  5. Because they like the composer who predated Nazism by half a century?
    Your fallacy is called 'guilt by association.'

    ex: Hitler was a vegetarian. So is Joe Blow.
    Joe Blow is therefore a Nazi.

    And so what if Zel is a Jew? Nazism is first and foremost RABID NATIONALISM, not Jew hating. Ukrainazis killed a bunch of Jews via Stepan Bandera and now celebrate that NAZI scum murderer. So they swapped out JEW with Russian.
    BTW, Zelensky is also a native Russian speaker, Ukrainian is his second language, but by your logic, that should be impossible because you can't Jewish Nazi supporter, therefore, you can't be a Russian born Russia hater.
    But- that's what he is, in both cases.
    He's an opportunist, who stole (public info) $400 million. He's letting Ukrainian die by the 10's of thousands for his profit. He's a murdering corrupt evil man.

    re:belief bubble.
    Nice projection.

    I state it categorically:
    Russia will defeat Ukraine absolutely.
    You people have been crowing about Ukraine winning for over a year.
    And they are about to go down in flames.
    and unlike you, who hate Russians, I feel bad for them because they are victims of a corrupt government.
     
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    #11245     May 1, 2023
  6. On April 28, in the city of Kalush, Ivano-Frankivsk region of
    western Ukraine, the street named after the Soviet general Ivan Chernyakhovsky, killed in the very end of the World War II, was
    renamed after the Nazi collaborator, SS Hauptsturmführer and Ukrainian Nationalist Dmitro Palyiv.
     
    #11246     May 1, 2023
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Prigozhin deliberately named the group after Hitler's favorite composer.

    "The group's moniker reportedly comes from a nickname for Utkin -- or is a reference to the composer Richard Wagner, beloved by Hitler."


    "Wagner itself is named after the notoriously antisemitic German composer, whose operas famously made Hitler weep. According to the group’s origin story, a former Spetsnaz (Soviet special forces) soldier named Dmitry Utkin used “Wagner” as his callsign while fighting in the Donbass region in eastern Ukraine in 2014. Utkin, who many consider Wagner’s operational commander, has tattoos of Nazi “SS” epaulets along his collar bones. Many founding members of Wagner also belong to the ultra-nationalist and white supremacist group known as the Russian Imperial Movement, which the U.S. State Department has declared a terrorist organization."
     
    #11247     May 1, 2023
  8. Another Ukrainian 'volunteer.'


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    #11248     May 1, 2023
  9. Here's the 'good Ukrainian freedom and Democracy' contigent works:

    Russian translator sentenced in Poland for "positive attitude towards Russia"

    On 30 April, the District Court in Krakow convicted Nikolina Shmukler-Matasova of "positive attitude towards Russia". She was sentenced to 4 months in prison, suspended for one year, and fined 5,000 PLN (~$1200).



    How is this freedom OR democracy?
    IT's all lies.
    Russia is winning decisively. Over by Autumn with all Eastern provinces part of Russia, as THEY VOTED TO BE.
    Ukraine is filled with Nazis as MANY msm articles openly stated before 2022.
     
    #11249     May 1, 2023
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


     
    #11250     May 1, 2023