Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. Snuskpelle

    Snuskpelle

    The sources I read daily are in Swedish I had to dig the corresponding English links up, so I will settle for just a few relatively recent ones:



    https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/01/europe/ukraine-soldiers-fighting-wagner-intl-cmd/index.html
    https://www.facebook.com/GeneralSta...w41mtdfA3HewQUXboamNTz1nJhMQfr7FWCCWukLNFg2hl

    Key points:
    • It in many cases takes Russian soldiers 40 hours to reach hospital...
    • ...if they get any treatment at all due to capacity constraints (they are quite often sent back with e.g. shrapnel still in body)
    • There have been frequent reporting of Russian forces, especially Wagner, executing their own wounded soldiers (or even low-mid officers) to make things easier logistically for them in the short term.
    • Deliberate poor survival rates logically follow from the Russian tactics of human wave assaults, in some cases carried out with prison convicts, in other with fresh recruits from ethnic groups Russia doesn't care about.
    • Ukrainian combat healthcare has closer to NATO standards (none of the links above support that assertion, but I will let you google if you're interested).

    I follow the war on a daily basis since it's a neighboring country to mine. Digging back the links above [of the few hundred I've read since last year] took me about half an hour, so it's as usual unscalable to make an overly informed reply to a single stranger on the Internet. If I could tell GPT-4 to collect all relevant links and summarize them it would be awesome I guess.
     
    #11231     Apr 29, 2023
  2. Nobert

    Nobert

     
    #11232     Apr 29, 2023
  3. kashirin

    kashirin

    How is this source not fake propaganda? He just uses data provided by Ukrainian goverment and what uk intelligence uses them doesn't make them true

    I honestly seen enough pictures of Ukrainian cemeteries and videos of catching Ukrainians on streets to understand Ukrainian casualties absolutely horrendous. Saying Russian loses much worse than Ukrainians just idiocy

    Ukrainian Nazis are being killed on industrial scale
     
    #11233     Apr 29, 2023
  4. Snuskpelle

    Snuskpelle

    "Ukrainian Nazis" you discredit your intellectual honesty right there, not going to bother with someone who cannot do very basic fact checking.
     
    #11234     Apr 29, 2023
    Cuddles and themickey like this.
  5. kashirin

    kashirin


    We can argue about Russian and Ukrainian loses. But there is one thing in this war which is certain Ukraine is a Nazi state.
    LOL
    Although you fast withdrawal with obvious fake propaganda is very welcomed
     
    #11235     Apr 29, 2023
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    the only thing that's been exposed for certain by this war, is that you, sir, are a clown. Also, quit bothering Sam Seder

     
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    #11236     Apr 29, 2023
  7. Prigo and Putin were all kissy face for about 3 weeks - now they are back at it.

    I think Prigo was trying to cut a deal where he would stop being a threat to Putin in return for Prigo getting more of "the business" in Africa and that did not go well. My opinion.

    Anyway, it is back to being a mess.

    Maybe they should go on Oprah's show and work it out.

    ‘Stop Deceiving the Population’: Russia’s Mercenary Boss Threatens Full-Blown Mutiny

    What kind of army are we if we couldn’t even manage with itty bitty Ukraine?”

    In the nearly hour-and-a-half long video interview—apparently filmed days earlier—he read out a letter he said he’d sent to Shoigu on Friday, in which he issued a brazen ultimatum threatening to pull his mercenaries out from Bakhmut if the defense ministry does not immediately provide the required ammunition.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/stop-...yevgeny-prigozhin-threatens-full-blown-mutiny
     
    #11237     Apr 30, 2023
  8. easymon1

    easymon1

    delete.jpg
     
    #11238     May 1, 2023
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #11239     May 1, 2023
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Let's take a look at the real Nazi problem -- Russia's Nazis. No nation on the face of the earth has more neo-Nazis than Russia.


    Putin’s fascists: the Russian state’s long history of cultivating homegrown neo-Nazis
    https://theconversation.com/putins-...ory-of-cultivating-homegrown-neo-nazis-178535

    Neo-Nazi Russian nationalist exposes how Russia’s leaders sent them to Ukraine to kill Ukrainians
    https://khpg.org/en/1608809502

    Confronting Russia’s Role in Transnational White Supremacist Extremism
    https://www.justsecurity.org/68420/...in-transnational-white-supremacist-extremism/

    Russia has a fascism problem and it’s not Ukraine
    https://mg.co.za/top-six/2022-03-07-russia-has-a-fascism-problem-and-its-not-ukraine/

    The rise of Russia’s neo-Nazi football hooligans
    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/apr/24/russia-neo-nazi-football-hooligans-world-cup

    Russian Neo-Nazis Participate in ‘Denazifying’ Ukraine – Der Spiegel
    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022...ate-in-denazifying-ukraine-der-spiegel-a77762

    Is there any truth to Russia's 'Ukrainian Nazis' propaganda?
    Russian propagandists are constantly saying Ukraine is full of Nazis, and posting alleged evidence online. DW's fact-checking team has investigated some of this supposed evidence.
    https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-is-there-any-truth-to-russias-ukrainian-nazis-propaganda/a-63970461
     
    #11240     May 1, 2023